[nabs-l] dog v. cane

Nicole B. Torcolini at Home ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Wed Nov 24 17:37:43 UTC 2010


I have only had one minor access problem. I, too, do not take my dog to
concerts and movie theaters. The one time that I can recall taking her to a
movie theater was because I was going to other places before and after and 
it would have been too long to leave her at home without her mid-day snack 
and relieving.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie McGinnity" <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] dog v. cane


> This is definitely a personal prefference.  I will only take my dog to
> one movie theater in the area because the rest are too crowded, and
> there is too much nastiness on the floor.  Movie theaters are
> disgusting!
>
> I would not take her to a concert, but I have taken her to musicals,
> and I go to classical concerts all the time.  They put her right to
> sleep.  Again, just a personal prefference.  I probably wouldn't take
> my dog to a TSO concert.  Good call.  Way too loud.  Lol!
>
> These are the kinds of decisions you have to make when you have a dog.
> Sometimes you realize after the fact that you probably shouldn't
> taken your dog to a certain place because it just didn't work.  That
> may happen.  As a first time guide dog handler, there are going to be
> times like that, but NAGDU has a great list serve.  You can always ask
> them, and the schools are always willing to help out as well.
>
> I personally have not had many access problems.  I also would not want
> that to stop you from getting a dog.  It is definitely something to
> consider though.
>
> On 11/23/10, autTeal Bloodwortho <tealbloodworth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is so true especially in certain places where people take their pets
>> into stores and say they are working animals. Also i think somebody was
>> talking about concerts. Personally i would not take my guide dog to a
>> concert, movie theatre, or even a club/bar. David does make a very good
>> point though because even though they are welcome to anywhere the general
>> public can go some places will give you a hard time and may end up in
>> something rediculous. Plus i think when going to a hospital or somewhere
>> it
>> isn't appropriate to take mine because he does still get excited by
>> certain
>> family members.
>>
>>         -Teal
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] dog v. cane
>>
>>
>>> Not to be argumentative, but I can travel as rapidly as most any dog
>>> user.
>>>
>>> Whether a dog, or a cane, there is a continuum of abilities.
>>>
>>> To me it is mostly a personal preference to use a cane.  One thing,
>>> about
>>> using a dog, which hasn't been said, I think, is that there are people
>>> out
>>>
>>> there who are against a dog, and will try and deny you entrance to a
>>> restaurant, taxi, or other public accommodation.  While you have the law
>>> on your side, you also need to be prepared to take on this prejudice --
>>> in
>>>
>>> addition to all the stuff we get as blind people going through life.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 10:57 AM 11/23/2010, you wrote:
>>>>Hi.
>>>>
>>>>I agree with everything that was said.  I too, find that I travel much
>>>>faster with a dog.  It is, however, a huge responsibility.  I got my
>>>>dog in high school, and I discovered that it was a big responsibility
>>>>then.  I was ready for it though.
>>>>
>>>>The best thing that I find about having a dog is the bond you have
>>>>with that dog.  My dog and I are best friends.  We are bonded for
>>>>life.  That is what I love most.  She helps me out, and I take care of
>>>>her.  I love it.
>>>>
>>>>I want to add also that even though you can have your dog find rooms
>>>>for you, you need to know where you are going.  You need to know if
>>>>your dog has taken you to the right room.  A lot of the mobility
>>>>skills that you needed with a cane cannot be forgotten.  I still use a
>>>>lot of the things I learned in mobility training everyday.  Sometimes
>>>>if your dog has an attitude, she will try and take you where she
>>>>thinks you want to go instead of the real place.  Lol!  This doesn't
>>>>happen oftin, and it's easy to correct, but it is something you have
>>>>to pay attention to.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck George!  If you want to talk about having a guide dog in
>>>>high school(I believe you are in high school), you can email me off
>>>>list.
>>>
>>>         David Andrews and long white cane Harry, dandrews at visi.com
>>> Follow me on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
>>>
>>>
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>
> -- 
> Julie McG
> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
> Eyes for the Blind
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
> life."
> John 3:16
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