[nabs-l] dog v. cane

Thu Nov 25 08:24:15 UTC 2010

The only places I don't take my dog to are bars and nightclubs. At least right now I can't think of any others. I think most of the time it's really a matter of preference, because properly trained guide dogs are used to being in tight spaces and know how to deal with it. Of course I guess in my daily life I don't usually go to places where I feel as though the dog might get hurt or might have a terrible time, but if I did I would probably consider leaving him home enjoying his bed and fresh water.
On Nov 23, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Julie McGinnity wrote:

> This is definitely a personal prefference.  I will only take my dog to
> one movie theater in the area because the rest are too crowded, and
> there is too much nastiness on the floor.  Movie theaters are
> disgusting!
> 
> I would not take her to a concert, but I have taken her to musicals,
> and I go to classical concerts all the time.  They put her right to
> sleep.  Again, just a personal prefference.  I probably wouldn't take
> my dog to a TSO concert.  Good call.  Way too loud.  Lol!
> 
> These are the kinds of decisions you have to make when you have a dog.
> Sometimes you realize after the fact that you probably shouldn't
> taken your dog to a certain place because it just didn't work.  That
> may happen.  As a first time guide dog handler, there are going to be
> times like that, but NAGDU has a great list serve.  You can always ask
> them, and the schools are always willing to help out as well.
> 
> I personally have not had many access problems.  I also would not want
> that to stop you from getting a dog.  It is definitely something to
> consider though.
> 
> On 11/23/10, autTeal Bloodwortho <tealbloodworth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is so true especially in certain places where people take their pets
>> into stores and say they are working animals. Also i think somebody was
>> talking about concerts. Personally i would not take my guide dog to a
>> concert, movie theatre, or even a club/bar. David does make a very good
>> point though because even though they are welcome to anywhere the general
>> public can go some places will give you a hard time and may end up in
>> something rediculous. Plus i think when going to a hospital or somewhere it
>> isn't appropriate to take mine because he does still get excited by certain
>> family members.
>> 
>>        -Teal
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] dog v. cane
>> 
>> 
>>> Not to be argumentative, but I can travel as rapidly as most any dog user.
>>> 
>>> Whether a dog, or a cane, there is a continuum of abilities.
>>> 
>>> To me it is mostly a personal preference to use a cane.  One thing, about
>>> using a dog, which hasn't been said, I think, is that there are people out
>>> 
>>> there who are against a dog, and will try and deny you entrance to a
>>> restaurant, taxi, or other public accommodation.  While you have the law
>>> on your side, you also need to be prepared to take on this prejudice -- in
>>> 
>>> addition to all the stuff we get as blind people going through life.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> At 10:57 AM 11/23/2010, you wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree with everything that was said.  I too, find that I travel much
>>>> faster with a dog.  It is, however, a huge responsibility.  I got my
>>>> dog in high school, and I discovered that it was a big responsibility
>>>> then.  I was ready for it though.
>>>> 
>>>> The best thing that I find about having a dog is the bond you have
>>>> with that dog.  My dog and I are best friends.  We are bonded for
>>>> life.  That is what I love most.  She helps me out, and I take care of
>>>> her.  I love it.
>>>> 
>>>> I want to add also that even though you can have your dog find rooms
>>>> for you, you need to know where you are going.  You need to know if
>>>> your dog has taken you to the right room.  A lot of the mobility
>>>> skills that you needed with a cane cannot be forgotten.  I still use a
>>>> lot of the things I learned in mobility training everyday.  Sometimes
>>>> if your dog has an attitude, she will try and take you where she
>>>> thinks you want to go instead of the real place.  Lol!  This doesn't
>>>> happen oftin, and it's easy to correct, but it is something you have
>>>> to pay attention to.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck George!  If you want to talk about having a guide dog in
>>>> high school(I believe you are in high school), you can email me off
>>>> list.
>>> 
>>>        David Andrews and long white cane Harry, dandrews at visi.com
>>> Follow me on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
>>> 
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> Julie McG
> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
> Eyes for the Blind
> 
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