[nabs-l] Helen Keller - the activest?

Sat Oct 2 17:54:48 UTC 2010

However, I think the NFB is starting to form alliances with other groups 
such as the case with the Reading Rights Coalition.

Dezman
 ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anmol Bhatia" <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
To: <jsorozco at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind Students mailing 
list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Helen Keller - the activest?

> Joe,
> I do agree that TenBroek was a incrediable person and brought blindness to 
> where it is today, but I still think that Hellen Keller was alot more 
> successful then Dr. TenBroek. Although I must confess that TenBroek is my 
> favorite from Jernigan and Maurer. It was Dr. TenBroek who first  brought 
> blind people as a strong force and forming a consumer organization like 
> the NFB to represent blind people was a incrediable achievement in a erra 
> before the instent communication that we are so use to today. Whats more 
> increditable is what Dr. TenBroek achieved during the time when the 
> attitude was that if you were blind you simply can not do anything for 
> yourself. But there is a reason why Hellen Keller achieved the fame that 
> Dr. TenBroek did not what do you think the reason was?
> Her potical beliefs may have been a little to ratical, but like you said 
> we do not have to always agree with all the beliefs of great leaders. 
> Whats important is the contributions that she made to the blind community.
> You are right that it would be better if we were to work more closely with 
> other disability organizations instead of going at it alone and frankly 
> since blind people are a large population of the disability community we 
> would most likely achieve what we want for the blind community and maybe 
> more. With our legislative leaders pressed for time and ceveral groups 
> trying to fight for attention and government funds, going at it alone is 
> not always the best policy.
> Just some of my thoughts.
> Anmol
>
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps 
> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze 
> among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
>
>
> --- On Sat, 10/2/10, Joe Orozco <jsorozco at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Joe Orozco <jsorozco at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Helen Keller - the activest?
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 9:13 AM
>> Anmol,
>>
>> Really? I don't know about Maurer, but this is only
>> because so often it
>> takes years to appreciate the contributions of a
>> leader. I thought Jernigan
>> though had some good grassroots achievements.
>> TenBroek is still my favorite
>> guy, and as for Helen Keller, I finally read up on her
>> achievements and
>> agree she was a commendable figure. I don't know that
>> I completely agree
>> with her political philosophy, a little too socially
>> radical for my taste,
>> but helping to found the ACLU is a pretty huge deal in of
>> itself. You don't
>> have to agree with a leader's positions to acknowledge
>> their greatness. I
>> think that what strikes me about Helen Keller and Jacobus
>> tenBroek is how
>> they appeared to be a little more inclusive, a little more
>> willing to work
>> with other groups. Maurer loses major points for me
>> for reinforcing such an
>> isolationist approach in the disability community. I
>> believe it is possible
>> to maintain our core philosophy and still work with
>> coalitions to get things
>> accomplished. Take, for example, the recent
>> Twenty-first Century
>> Communications and Video Accessibility Act. I think
>> it's a pretty big deal,
>> and I wonder if we might not have been better off trying to
>> incorporate our
>> technology bill of rights into something like that rather
>> than going at it
>> alone. Here again though, I have to respect anyone
>> who voluntarily puts
>> themselves at the helm of any cause-oriented organization.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> “Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn
>> up their sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at
>> all.”--Sam Ewing
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Anmol Bhatia
>> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:52 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Helen Keller - the activest?
>>
>> Hellen Killer did do alot for the blind community. The
>> thing
>> that stands out for me is what she overcame and achieved to
>> get
>> to where she got to. All that she accomplished. Yes she did
>> not
>> marry, but look famous she became. Consider the life that
>> blind
>> people were expected to achieve back then and she achieved
>> alot
>> more and as a result of her advocacy work and coming to
>> fame,
>> she has brought the somewhat possative attitude that
>> society
>> has about blindness today. However, she is just one
>> leader in
>> the history of blindness. Hellen Keller is one and another
>> one
>> is Louis Braille. Having said that I can not agree that Dr.
>>
>> Jernigan and Dr. more have done more for blindness
>> then Hellen Keller.
>> Anmol
>>
>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me
>>
>> sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at times;
>> but it
>> is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
>> Hellen Keller
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 10/1/10, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Helen Keller - the activest?
>> > To: jsorozco at gmail.com,
>> "National Association of Blind
>> Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> > Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 8:49 PM
>> > :) Anne's lost twin sister
>> > maybe?
>> > I've heard of Hellen Keller being an activist in a
>> > variety of
>> > different places- disability rights, advocating
>> socialism
>> > (I'll look
>> > this one up again but I'm pretty sure), and anti
>> world
>> > wars.
>> > So...yes, I'd consider her an activist. I don't
>> agree
>> > with everything
>> > she said, but her example of stepping forward and
>> speaking
>> > up is
>> > something I can respect and look up to.
>> > That being said, I also think that Doctors Ten
>> > Broek, Jernigan and
>> > Maurer have probably done more in the field of
>> blindness
>> > specificly.
>> > But I don't think that diminishes Hellen Keller or
>> Anne
>> > Sulivan in the
>> > slightest.
>> > Best regards,
>> > Kirt
>> >
>> > On 10/1/10, Joe Orozco <jsorozco at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Who's Any Seliven?
>> > >
>> > > Joe
>> > >
>> > > "Hard work spotlights the character of people:
>> some
>> > turn up their sleeves,
>> > > some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up
>> at
>> > all."--Sam Ewing
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> > > [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> > On Behalf Of Beth
>> > > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 8:13 PM
>> > > To: National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing
>> > list
>> > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Helen Keller - the
>> activest?
>> > >
>> > > You're right. Annie Sullivat proved something,
>> > but Helen needed a
>> > > time to shine.
>> > > Beth
>> > >
>> > > On 10/1/10, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> Give me a brake? Helen Keller did a lot for
>> the
>> > blind and
>> > > deaf comunity! Any
>> > >> Seliven was the Dr. Gernigan of her time! RJ
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>> > >> To: <jsorozco at gmail.com>;
>> > "National Association of Blind
>> > > Students mailing
>> > >> list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> > >> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 4:31 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Helen Keller - the
>> > activest?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>> Helen Keller has always inspired me, but
>> then
>> > again, she had
>> > > a life that
>> > >>> was typical of a blind woman in her
>> > time. Since she was
>> > > also deaf, she
>> > >>> could not do much else in the society
>> she
>> > lived in. She was
>> > > told not to
>> > >>> marry and have children, so I've seen a
>> phrase
>> > "sexless
>> > > saint" describing
>> > >>> her. Where is that, anyone? I
>> > might be wrong.
>> > >>> Beth
>> > >>>
>> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >>> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com
>> > >>> To: "'National Association of Blind
>> Students
>> > mailing list'"
>> > >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> > >>> Date sent: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 14:17:42
>> -0400
>> > >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Helen Keller - the
>> > activest?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I personally think ten'Broek was a
>> larger
>> > advocate and icon
>> > > in terms of
>> > >>> work
>> > >>> and results. I've always heard of
>> Helen
>> > Keller but could
>> > > honestly not
>> > >>> tell
>> > >>> you what she accomplished. I think I
>> > know more about Annie
>> > > Sullivan than
>> > >>> I
>> > >>> do Helen.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Joe
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Hard work spotlights the character of
>> people:
>> > some turn up
>> > > their sleeves,
>> > >>> some turn up their noses, and some don't
>> turn
>> > up at all."--Sam Ewing
>> > >>>
>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> > >>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> > On Behalf Of Darian Smith
>> > >>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 1:20 PM
>> > >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Helen Keller - the
>> > activest?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> greetings,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I was reading something and it
>> > sparked a question that I want to
>> > >>> pose to the list for some consideration
>> and
>> > conversation.
>> > >>> Helen Keller was considered a rather
>> > significant activest within the
>> > >>> disability community.
>> > >>> This being the case, I have two
>> questions:
>> > >>> 1. do you personally consider her an
>> activest/
>> > Advocate?
>> > >>> 2. what do we know to be the NFB's
>> > stance on this/her?
>> > >>> I pose this as two questions to get
>> your
>> > thoughts and to
>> > > get what you
>> > >>> understand to be the organizational point
>> of
>> > view.
>> > >>> thank you all for your consideration,
>> > >>> Darian
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> Darian Smith
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>> > >>>
>> > >>> "We are not human beings having a
>> spiritual
>> > experience. We are
>> > >>> spiritual beings having a human
>> experience." -
>> > Teilhard de Chardin
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
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