[nabs-l] FW: some very beginner, basic cooking questions!

[V Nork]

-----Original Message-----
From: V Nork [mailto:ginisd at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 4:12 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: RE: [nabs-l] some very beginner, basic cooking questions!

Hello Kerri and all, Below is the Safeway accessibility site and the
telephone number for customer service.  I have had things delivered, most
helpful  for me  to have delivered are bulky things like milk, soda,
drinking water, and things that can be awkward to carry up stairs where I
live, like multiple packs of paper towels, and so on.  Safeway has a line of
signature soups that are very good, and fresh from the deli, but of course
sometimes they are out of what I want.  And although customer service is not
specifically set up to help blind customers who have screen readers,  rather
all members of the public, they are still great and helpful to speak to when
you are  mastering  using the site.   The accessibility site is designed for
blind users because it is simpler, but I do not thing the regular Von's site
would be a problem to learn  for those on this list with some trial and
error.  The regular Von's site may help you with product details, say
knowing sodium and carbs, which is not easy to view on the accessibility
site, at least not with Window Eyes for me.I think you have to create an
account to browse in the accessibility site, but not in the regular site,
for Vons.  I am in California, so I am not sure how much is regional.  Links
are below, hope this is clear, Ginnie

www.shop.safeway.com/access

www.vonscom

customer service:  1-877-505-4040
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Kerri Kosten
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:18 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] some very beginner, basic cooking questions!

Hi Nicole and All:

Safeway looks good, but I can't figure out how to browse?
I typed in my zipcode and there isn't one in my area...so I just typed
in the keyword search "chicken marinade" and a bunch of recipes for
different home-made marinades came up.
What I want is a list of bottled/already-made marinades sold in
popular stores such as Kroger or walmart so when I go I have some idea
of what to get.

On doing a google search for "browsing grocery store online" I got
walmart.com grocery but currently it says it's unavailable for
maintinence.

What about amazon grocery?

I don't think there is any delivery grocery services where I live
(although that would be nice) so I'm not looking necessairily for
online grocery shopping per say but just a way to see what some of the
items in the isles are so I can get a better idea of what to get when
I do go to the store that way I don't have to take up the customer
service person's time browsing and having no clue what I want.

Am I missing something with the Safeway site? Can you browse their
groceries without being a member or having a store in your area?

What about Walmart.com grocery and amazon.com grocery? Would those be
my best bet for what I'm looking for?

I didn't see anything like this on Kroger.com except for their weekly ads!

Kerri

On 10/1/10, Katie Wang <bunnykatie6 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, guys! I think i'm happy with my toaster oven for now but now
> that i know the difference a George Forman grill can definitely be an
> option for the future. And i'm glad to learn that you could use the
> microwave to make scrambled eggs and burger patties-- Will try that
> very soon. This is a great thread:)
>    Katie
>
>
> On 9/30/10, Nicole B. Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>> Yep, Safeway.com. As a matter of fact, I prefer to do my shopping online.
>>
>> As far as grill verses oven, a grill is basically for flatter things
while
>> an oven is for taller things. You grill mainly meat, fish, vegetables,
and
>> sometimes buns on a grill where as you bake a lot of other things. Have
>> you
>> ever felt an outdoor grill? If so, an inside is basically like that
except
>> for that it runs on electricity rather than gas or charcoal.
>>
>> Nicole
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kerri Kosten" <kerrik2006 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] some very beginner, basic cooking questions!
>>
>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> A george Foreman is more like a grill...iit grills things rather than
>>> bakes as a toaster oven does.
>>>
>>> I actually like things done in the oven better as I think food tastes
>>> better in the oven but maybe that's because I've been so limited for
>>> so long that now I've discovered I can make some decent things in the
>>> toaster oven and it won't burn the house down I'm sick of the Foreman
>>> lol.
>>>
>>> I'm sure there is more you can make but I usually use the foreman for
>>> meats...I understand you can make vegetables on it as well but have
>>> never done this.
>>>
>>> To Arielle and others...is there any grocery store websites where I
>>> could possibly somehow browse "virtual" isles online almost as if I'm
>>> going to shop online and maybe get some ideas ahead of time online
>>> then make a final grocery list? I got this idea because I was looking
>>> on kroger.com and they have their weekly ads...their ads can be viewed
>>> in categories and it reminded me of browsing the store. All I saw this
>>> for was the weekly ads but if I could somehow browse a wider variety
>>> online...that would help a ton.
>>>
>>> If it were up to me, I would go to the store and browse all day but I
>>> know you can't do that with a shopping assistant. Without going into a
>>> ton of details and cluttering up this email more than it already
>>> is...I don't have much sighted support...most of the sighted people
>>> around here seem to have the typical feel--sorry attitude so I'm sort
>>> of on my own.
>>>
>>> By the way I have to say...I have one pound of ground beef left...I
>>> took some out of the package, made it into a patty, put it in the
>>> microwave for 4 minutes, turned it over, and fixed it for another 5,
>>> put a slice of american cheese on it, fixed it for another
>>> minute...and fixed myself a real ground beef hamburger. It tasted
>>> exactly as I've had before made on the stove...you would've thought it
>>> had been made on the stove...so yes microwaved browned ground beef is
>>> good...I will try putting it in hamburger helper next. I found
>>> microwave hamburger helper directions! I've been wanting to try making
>>> hamburger helper forever now!
>>>
>>> Kerri
>>>
>>> On 9/30/10, Katie Wang <bunnykatie6 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi, Kerry and all,
>>>>   I'm enjoying this thread and appreciate all the cooking tips from
>>>> everyone! I'm a beginner in cooking too so this is very helpful to me.
>>>>   One question out of curiosity: I use a toaster oven and a microwave
>>>> all the time but don't have a George Forman Grill. Is it similar to an
>>>> oven? Does it accomplish the same things? In what situations would you
>>>> use a grill rather than an oven? Thanks!
>>>>    Katie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/30/10, Arielle Silverman <nabs.president at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> There are tons of bottled or packaged marinades you can get for
>>>>> chicken. Most customer service clerks I've worked with don't mind
>>>>> doing a little browsing, and if you say "I'm looking for a chicken
>>>>> marinade" that's specific enough that they should be able to find the
>>>>> aisle/section with all the premade marinades. Another quick chicken
>>>>> product I really like is "Shake-n-Bake" which is basically just
>>>>> coating that you pour into a ziplock bag, shake the chicken breast in
>>>>> it, and then bake in the oven (toaster oven will work fine). You can
>>>>> get lots of different flavors-I especially like the hot and spicy.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can also get buffalo/hot sauce, teriyaki sauce, BBQ (as someone
>>>>> else mentioned), salad dressing, etc. There's really a limitless
>>>>> number of ways to season chicken and many of these only require one or
>>>>> two ingredients.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, Kroger/King Soopers has some preseasoned chicken breasts you
>>>>> can get that are all ready to be popped in the grill/oven. Look for
>>>>> "marinated chicken brests" in the meat section.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/30/10, Jacob Struiksma <lawnmower84 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I grill chicken on my gorge Forman grill all the time.
>>>>>> From
>>>>>> Jacob Struiksma
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Ashley Bramlett
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 8:23 PM
>>>>>> To: Nicole B. Torcolini; National Association of Blind Students
>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] some very beginner, basic cooking questions!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tenderloins are user friendly; they're thin and are not as bulky as
>>>>>> chicken
>>>>>> breasts and therfore easier to serve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've only seen chicken cooked in the oven except for sliced up
chicken
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> soup.
>>>>>> What chicken dishes are cooked on the stove?  Do you have to turn the
>>>>>> chicken over?  I would think not with a tenderloin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ashley----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>> To: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>; "National
>>>>>> Association
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:56 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] some very beginner, basic cooking questions!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ditto on the tender loins. If you ever decide to cook on the stove,
I
>>>>>>> can give you some simple recipes that use the tender loins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 7:52 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] some very beginner, basic cooking questions!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Kerri,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've never heard of browning beef in the microwave.  Doesn't sound
>>>>>>>> like a good idea.  Even with 93 percent lean meat it generates
>>>>>>>> grease
>>>>>>>> You need it to sizzle and brown in a skillet!  You need to break
the
>>>>>>>> lump of meat up and stir while browning!  You cannot do this in a
>>>>>> microwave.
>>>>>>>> If you can't use the stove, then stick to doing beef on the george
>>>>>>>> forman; make hamburger pattys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> About eggs, it depends on the microwave.  I tried microwaved eggs
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> don't like them.
>>>>>>>> A table spoon of water or milk?  Doesn't sound accurate to me.
>>>>>>>> Check
>>>>>>>> again!
>>>>>>>> Yes you can add milk or water but I'm not sure as I've not measured
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> But I doubt its a tablespoon!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think you should heat the eggs a minute and then check on them
and
>>>>>>>> then stir, and put them in a little longer, maybe 10 or
>>>>>>>> 15 second intervals.
>>>>>>>> I don't think you will need two minutes.  When I cooked them this
>>>>>>>> amount, they were overcooked!
>>>>>>>> No you don't need to cover the bowl.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> About butter its in a stick.  You'll have to ask what the
>>>>>>>> measurements are. The butter stick has markings to indicate what is
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> tablespoon etc on the wrapper.
>>>>>>>> Ask what a table spoon is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Generally there are eight tablespoons in a stick of butter.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sound like we have the same taste buds.  I like brown beef
including
>>>>>>>> meatballs and hamburger and ground beef in other recipies.  But I
am
>>>>>>>> not comfortable browing beef myself because I don't know when its
>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the bread crumbs follow the recipie.
>>>>>>>> I am no expert but I doubt it would matter what type of bread
>>>>>>>> crumbs.
>>>>>>>> However some bread crumbs are seasoned, so if you don't want that
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> plain ones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also  really like chicken, and like you get the boneless skinless
>>>>>>>> chicken breasts; actually I get the tenderloins if cooking for
>>>>>>>> myself; they're smaller.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can certainly buy a number of sauces or marinades.  Why not do
>>>>>>>> barbecue sauce for them?
>>>>>>>> I also heard you can cover the chicken in cream of mushroom soup
for
>>>>>>>> more taste.
>>>>>>>> You can ask at your store what is available.  What grocery stores
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> near you?  If they're the same as my area or if I know the store
>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>> I can check on line and give you some ideas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some of this is about what is in your grocery store, personal
tastes
>>>>>>>> and experimenting.
>>>>>>>> I have hardly cooked either; I'm novice.  I learned some at the
>>>>>>>> rehab
>>>>>>>> center I went to in state.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really think you should ask a friend some of these questions.
For
>>>>>>>> the sauces question and the butter question its as simple as asking
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> person to read the package and browse the grocery store with you
and
>>>>>>>> you can figure out what you would like to try.
>>>>>>>> Each store is different so without the names its hard to recommend
>>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use barbecue sauce mostly to season chicken so that is what came
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> mind first.
>>>>>>>> If you need some hands on help why can't you get a rehab teacher to
>>>>>>>> come show you some things?  Doesn't your state agency have them?
>>>>>>>> Mine
>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>> I had one or two as a teen and she taught me some real basic skills
>>>>>>>> like pouring and spreading.
>>>>>>>> Rehab teachers teach you to cook and other household activities.
>>>>>>>> Is there a lighthouse for the blind near you?  Many lighthouses
>>>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>>> cooking classes for blind people or can send a teacher out to help
>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think its great you asked questions but to be real helpful you
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to have someone show you what to do and maybe go to the store so
you
>>>>>>>> know what all is there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Kerri Kosten" <kerrik2006 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: <blind-cooks at nfbnet.org>; "National Association of Blind
>>>>>>>> Students
>>>>>>>> mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "Blind Talk Mailing List"
>>>>>>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; "NFB of West Virginia Discussion List"
>>>>>>>> <nfbwv-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: <k-r at atlanticbb.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:44 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] some very beginner, basic cooking questions!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am very basic at cooking as I haven't been taught much but
wanted
>>>>>>>>> to experiment and try to make a couple of simple-sounding recipes.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> had some questions however, as I am a bit confused.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I should first begin by saying I can not use the stove at this
>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>> I have a crockpot, a George Foreman Grill, a microwave, and a
small
>>>>>>>>> toaster oven. However, even with these limitations, I feel I can
>>>>>>>>> make some things. I won't clutter this email with the reasoning. I
>>>>>>>>> am also totally blind, and have no residual vision.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First, when a recipe calls for a table spoon of something, does it
>>>>>>>>> mean the measuring spoon (the biggest spoon in the measuring spoon
>>>>>>>>> set) or does it mean one of those larger spoons used at the table
>>>>>>>>> for eating/ocasionally mixing things?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The first recipe I'd like to try making is scrambled eggs in the
>>>>>>>>> microwave. Yes, it can be done, and from the reviews I've read
it's
>>>>>>>>> pretty tasty, easy and quick. I am confused though because I have
>>>>>>>>> read several recipes for microwave scrambled eggs and they all say
>>>>>>>>> different things. Some say put the eggs in the microwave for 30
>>>>>>>>> seconds, then mix with a fork/whisk, then put it in for another 10
>>>>>>>>> seconds, mix again, then keep putting it in for 10 second
intervals
>>>>>>>>> until the eggs are done. Others however say to put the eggs in the
>>>>>>>>> microwave for 2 minutes, and take the eggs out after one minute
and
>>>>>>>>> stir. I like my eggs very thick, and well done; I don't like them
>>>>>>>>> runny. I don't want to overcook the eggs...should I do 30 seconds
>>>>>>>>> then stir at 10 second intervals or put it in for 2 minutes
>>>>>>>>> stirring
>>>>>>>>> at 1 minute intervals?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, I like a lot of butter in my eggs. Some recipes say a table
>>>>>>>>> spoon, others say 2 teaspoons (I know the teaspoon is the littlest
>>>>>>>>> spoon so that doesn't sound like much), and others say a small pat
>>>>>>>>> of butter. Do I need to literally measure out a tablespoon or can
I
>>>>>>>>> just cut a square pat of butter from the stick? Will it hurt the
>>>>>>>>> eggs at all or affect the taste drastically if I accidentally put
>>>>>>>>> too much butter in?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some recipes say to put a tablespoon of water or milk into the
>>>>>>>>> eggs.
>>>>>>>>> Is this a good idea or will it make them more liquidy/runny? I
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> want my eggs to taste rubbery but I don't like them liquidy
either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some recipes also say to lightly cover the bowl with the eggs in
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>> Does this have to be done? Couldn't I just fix the eggs uncovered?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another recipe I'd like to try is grape jelly meatballs in the
>>>>>>>>> crockpot/slow cooker. These may sound gross, but essentially all
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> do is take frozen meatballs (you can also make your own), a jar of
>>>>>>>>> grape jelly, and a jar of chilli sauce, put it in the crockpot,
and
>>>>>>>>> let it go. I've been told they are very good. However, some
recipes
>>>>>>>>> say to dump the chilli sauce, meatballs, and grape jelly  in the
>>>>>>>>> crockpot and let it go, while others say the grape jelly and
chilli
>>>>>>>>> sauce needs to be mixed well before putting the meatballs in.
>>>>>>>>> Should
>>>>>>>>> I mix the chilli sauce, and grape jelly or just throw it all in?
>>>>>>>>> Once the meatballs finish cooking, Does it affect the taste at all
>>>>>>>>> whether the sauce is mixed or not?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Speaking of meatballs, sometime I would also like to try baking
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> in the oven. Does it matter which type of breadcrumbs I use? There
>>>>>>>>> are many different types.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, I read that browning ground beef is just heating it to a 160
>>>>>>>>> degree temperature so the bacteria are killed off. You can either
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> this in the microwave or the conventional way on a stove. Have any
>>>>>>>>> of you ground beef in the microwave and if done properly does it
>>>>>>>>> taste the same as browning it on the stove?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One thing I really like is chicken. I usually get the boneless,
>>>>>>>>> skinless frozen chicken breasts. Currently, the only thing I know
>>>>>>>>> how to do with them is to put hot sauce on one, put it on the
>>>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>>>> Foreman grill, and cook it for 7 or so minutes. However, this gets
>>>>>>>>> old after a while. Is there any simple marinades or anything I can
>>>>>>>>> buy that I can lather on the chicken, and either bake it or grill
>>>>>>>>> it? I know marinades can be made from scratch but I'm at a very
>>>>>>>>> simple basic level of cooking right now so am just looking for
>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>> simple.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is it a good idea to get a talking meat thermometer? Should I just
>>>>>>>>> get the $115 one sold at the Independence market?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am a very literal, over-analytical person who tends to overthink
>>>>>>>>> everything. When I look at recipes, and they all say differing
>>>>>>>>> things, I get confused. Also, when a recipe says to use a bowl, I
>>>>>>>>> can't figure out whether it means a big bowl, a medium-size bowl,
a
>>>>>>>>> small bowl, or  a mixing bowl. When it says combine something I
>>>>>>>>> wonder...does that mean to just put the items in the bowl or does
>>>>>>>>> that mean throw the items in the bowl, and mix them? When a recipe
>>>>>>>>> says to mix something, I wonder... with a big mixing spoon, with a
>>>>>>>>> spoon you eat with, a fork, or a whisk. When beginning to first
>>>>>>>>> cook, did you also have these types of problems/questions? How do
>>>>>>>>> you get over this...just with practice and experimentation?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>>>>>>> Kerri
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
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>>>>> President, National Association of Blind Students
>>>>> Phone:  602-502-2255
>>>>> Email:
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>>>>> Website:
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