[nabs-l] Capta

Thu Oct 21 06:04:27 UTC 2010

I've never heard of these services.  What do they do? I've been 
doing those monstrosities of audio captchas forever, and wouldn't 
mind a change.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:41:22 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Capta

I agree, something needs to be done about this.  But if a 
deaf-blind person can use a screen reader with a braille display, 
then solona or WebVisum are just as useful, convenient or 
inconvenient to use as they are to anyone else.  Those audio 
alternatives are sometimes useless, because it's very hard to 
understand them.  Most of the time I just use one of the captcha 
solution services even if there is an audio captcha available.
On Oct 20, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:

 Good morning everyone,

    And if you're blind and deaf you really have a problem with 
these
 things.  Much has been done to create audio alternatives but 
nothing is being
 done to make these CAPTCHAs make their information available 
tactually.  I've
 said it before and will say it again.  If we can build an 
interface to allow
 a blind person to drive a car independently we should be able to 
create a
 way for screen readers to read CAPTCHA information and reproduce 
it both
 audibly and tactually so those with severe hearing impairments 
can have full
 access to Web sites where these things are used.  In light of 
our work with
 Virginia Tech the excuse that the technology to accomplish this 
isn't there
 doesn't wash with me.  The same is also true of the blind driver 
interface
 but we're moving full speed ahead on that one.  We should be 
doing the same
 with improving the usability of CAPTCHAS.

 Peter Donahue

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Nicole B.  Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Capta

 It is really annoying.  The idea is that a computer cannot hack 
it because
 the print is not recognizable by OCR and the speech is to 
unintelligible to
 be recognized.  It seems to work fine for sighted people; I 
think that the
 most tries that a sighted person ever had to do on it was 3, but 
I couldn't
 understand the speech if I listened to it 1000000 times.  There 
is discussion
 about alternative methods of security, such as writing out a 
question that
 only has one answer but that a computer would not be able to 
understand.  For
 example:
 what is 1+1
 and
 what is one plus one
 mean the same thing to a human and would result in
 2
 or two
 but a computer probably has less of a chance of understanding 
the writing
 than it would understanding the math.

 Nicole

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Rob" <rmlambert1987 at yahoo.com
 To: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>; "National 
Association of
 Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Capta

 Captcha is a visual utility implemented for security - to tell 
the
 difference between a human & a computer.  It is not accessible 
by screen
 readers, hence the assistance website.

 Sent from my iPod

 On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:09 PM, "Ashley  Bramlett"
 <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:

 What is CAPTA?  Maybe the advocacy program for your state.
 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B.  Torcolini"
 <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
 To: "NABS-L" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:11 PM
 Subject: [nabs-l] Capta

 Does anyone know the information for the capta assistance 
website?

 Thanks,
 Nicole
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