[nabs-l] Capta
Danielle Montour
hypoplexer at gmail.com
Thu Oct 21 04:11:12 UTC 2010
True. I hate the captchas where you have to enter the words,
never mind the numbers, into the edit boxes.
Those one's are the ones that are hard for me to understand.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
To: <jsorozco at gmail.com>, "National Association of Blind Students
mailing list"<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:04:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Capta
I think that this conversation is very interesting. However,
before I say
anymore, I want to emphasize that what follows is only my
personal opinions.
I agree that whatever security measure that is used needs to be
accessible
all disabilities. However, I find one fundamental flaw in the
idea of making
captcha accessible to screen readers. The original intent of
captcha is to
prevent automated systems from tricking the system. Although a
screen reader
in and of itself cannot fill out a form, someone who really knew
what he/she
was doing could harness this capability Rather than trying to
figure which a
way to make captcha accessible without defeating the purpose of
captcha, I
think that it would be better to try to find another security
feature.
I do not think that whoever designed captcha purposefully made
them
inaccessible. Rather, the designer(s) was (were) simply unaware
of such
issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Capta
Peter,
Let's write a resolution for it. I'll volunteer to help write
it with you
and anyone else interested.
Joe
"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up
their sleeves,
some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam
Ewing
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[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:35 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Capta
Good afternoon everyone,
All the more the reason to make them usable by all disabled
individuals
including the deaf-blind.
Peter Donahue
----- Original Message -----
From: "autTeal Bloodwortho" <tealbloodworth at gmail.com
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<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Capta
but rather they are increasing the usage of them on frequently
used social
networking sites, even those that are generally blind friendly.
-Teal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
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<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Capta
Good morning everyone,
And if you're blind and deaf you really have a problem with
these
things. Much has been done to create audio alternatives but
nothing is
being
done to make these CAPTCHAs make their information available
tactually.
I've
said it before and will say it again. If we can build an
interface to
allow
a blind person to drive a car independently we should be able
to create a
way for screen readers to read CAPTCHA information and
reproduce it both
audibly and tactually so those with severe hearing
impairments can have
full
access to Web sites where these things are used. In light of
our work with
Virginia Tech the excuse that the technology to accomplish this
isn't
there
doesn't wash with me. The same is also true of the blind
driver interface
but we're moving full speed ahead on that one. We should be
doing the same
with improving the usability of CAPTCHAS.
Peter Donahue
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Capta
It is really annoying. The idea is that a computer cannot
hack it because
the print is not recognizable by OCR and the speech is to
unintelligible
to
be recognized. It seems to work fine for sighted people; I
think that the
most tries that a sighted person ever had to do on it was 3, but
I
couldn't
understand the speech if I listened to it 1000000 times. There
is
discussion
about alternative methods of security, such as writing out a
question that
only has one answer but that a computer would not be able to
understand.
For
example:
what is 1+1
and
what is one plus one
mean the same thing to a human and would result in
2
or two
but a computer probably has less of a chance of understanding
the writing
than it would understanding the math.
Nicole
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <rmlambert1987 at yahoo.com
To: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>; "National
Association
of
Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Capta
Captcha is a visual utility implemented for security - to tell
the
difference between a human & a computer. It is not
accessible by screen
readers, hence the assistance website.
Sent from my iPod
On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:09 PM, "Ashley Bramlett"
<bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
What is CAPTA? Maybe the advocacy program for your state.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini"
<ntorcolini at wavecable.com
To: "NABS-L" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:11 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Capta
Does anyone know the information for the capta assistance
website?
Thanks,
Nicole
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