[nabs-l] Update on compress video class

Fri Aug 26 01:13:12 UTC 2011

Hi David,

Great! I'm also good friends with Dr. Lieberman. I'll tell her I know
you next time I see her. I did go fishing and had a great time there!
We have one here in Maryland now, and that's where I was introduced to
Camp Abilities. I've been going to the MD camp since its founding 4
years ago. I've also gone to the Brockport and Pensylvania camps. Dr.
Lieberman thinks I'll do the whole circuit soon, lol!

Chris

On 8/25/11, David Dodge <daviddod at buffalo.edu> wrote:
> Chris,
> Yup, UB is the largest SUNY school with an enrollment of 28,000 students. I
> went to Camp Abilities Brockport myself and Dr. Lieberman and I are pretty
> close colleagues. It sounded like you had a great experience? Did you fish
> while you were there? I got fishing started there and am happy to hear it is
> still offered.
>
> David
> ----------------------------------
> David Dodge
> Doctoral Degree Granting Institutions Rep.
> State University of New York Student Assembly
> English Major
> University at Buffalo
> 306 Clemens Hall
> Buffalo, NY 14260
> daviddod at buffalo.edu
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 8:57 PM, chris nusbaum
> <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> David, wow, that's a big school for a SUNY college! :) I went to SUNY
>> Brockport for Camp Abilities NY, a sports camp for blind youth. To
>> find out more about it, go to www.campabilities.org. Peter, I agree
>> with you! Joshua, don't let your stupid DSO office stop you from
>> getting the accomodations you need! You are an independent adult now,
>> and noone but yourself can stop you from being a self-advocate. That's
>> what your disabilities lady needs to learn. I gather that she hasn't
>> had much experience with the advocacy of the Federation and its
>> members. * Evil smile! :)And if you're still having problems with
>> them, I encourage you to contact NABS or the Federation to get an
>> advocate. Good luck!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 8/25/11, David Dodge <daviddod at buffalo.edu> wrote:
>> > I go to the University at Buffalo, as I think I have mentioned on here
>> > before. UB is so large that we have a department of parking and
>> > transportation with a paratransit division that can help students if
>> > they
>> > seek it out.
>> >
>> > However, prior to this, I was at a community college in a town smaller
>> than
>> > where your college is. I had to constantly ask for rides and carpool
>> > with
>> > people. It ends up being first a useful skill to learn different ways of
>> > getting transportation and second an opportunity to meet new people.
>> >
>> > David
>> > ----------------------------------
>> > David Dodge
>> > Doctoral Degree Granting Institutions Rep.
>> > State University of New York Student Assembly
>> > English Major
>> > University at Buffalo
>> > 306 Clemens Hall
>> > Buffalo, NY 14260
>> > daviddod at buffalo.edu
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Joshua Lester <
>> > jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> >> That's exactly what I'm going to do!
>> >> I'm not putting up with their mess!
>> >> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>
>> >> On 8/23/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> > Good afternoon everyone,
>> >> >
>> >> > If anyone ever exerted power like that over me they would have Hell
>> >> > to
>> >> pay.
>> >> > A few blindness professionals and others around here found that out
>> the
>> >> hard
>> >> > way. You're an adult not a child. Take control of your life and don't
>> >> ever
>> >> > let anyone rule your life like that.
>> >> >
>> >> > Peter Donahue who does his best to stay away from DSS offices and
>> their
>> >> kin.
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>> >> > To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:51 PM
>> >> > Subject: [nabs-l] Update on compress video class
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm with Arielle, I don't understand how any office on campus can ban
>> >> > you from asking other students for a ride.  A DSO itself may not be
>> >> > allowed to make such a request, but you are acting on your behalf and
>> >> > not the behalf of the school, so there's no reason why you can't ask
>> >> > classmates for rides.
>> >> >
>> >> > I actually find it incredibly inappropriate that your DSO not only
>> >> > suggests a janitor take you home, but that it believes it is within
>> DSO
>> >> > functions and rules to make such a request for a student.  It's not
>> fair
>> >> > to you, as the student, and it's not fair to the janitor staff, whose
>> >> > job requirements, I guarantee you, say nothing about acting as a taxi
>> >> > service for certain students.
>> >> >
>> >> > Transportation is not an accommodation any DSO has to offer or deal
>> >> > with.  A disability services office only has to handle concerns and
>> >> > accommodations that directly affect and deal with your education.
>> >> > How
>> >> > you get to and from school is not its concern.  They can provide
>> >> > suggestions, as Arielle mentions, but they can't keep you from
>> >> > seeking
>> >> > other routes different from any suggestion it makes.
>> >> >
>> >> > As a student, it is your responsibility to check out class schedules
>> >> > well before each semester and determine how to get to each class and
>> >> > round up any necessary transportation.  If you don't have family or
>> >> > friends who can help, and no classmates can either, and the public
>> >> > transit is not a viable option, you will have to consider paying for
>> >> > a
>> >> > service like a taxi.
>> >> >
>> >> > Nonetheless, no one can not allow you to request a ride from fellow
>> >> > classmates.  Regardless of what your DSO says, know it can't penalize
>> >> > you, or stop you, from making this request.  And if, for whatever
>> >> > reason, your instructor won't allow you to make a request in front of
>> >> > the class, you can email students, or ask individually.
>> >> >
>> >> > Good luck.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sincerely,
>> >> > Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> >> > Read my blog for Live Well Nebraska.com at
>> >> > http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>> >> >
>> >> > Message: 5
>> >> > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:28:57 -0600
>> >> > From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>> >> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Update on Compress Video Class
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>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Joshua,
>> >> > I'm still a little confused about what the problem is with the
>> >> > disabilities lady. There's nothing stopping you from asking another
>> >> > student either for a ride, for help with understanding the video, or
>> >> > both. Sometimes disability services suggests a specific way to do
>> >> > something, like suggesting you take a ride from the janitor, but
>> that's
>> >> > just a suggestion. You can absolutely do whatever you feel is best to
>> >> > get your accommodations even if it's not what the DSS office
>> >> > suggests.
>> >> > Maybe I misunderstood what the issue is? Arielle
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> Chris Nusbaum
>>
>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The real
>> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists. If
>> a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can
>> be reduced to a mere physical nuissence." -- Kenneth Jernigan
>>
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>> information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
>> impaired children in MD say "I can!"
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Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists. If
a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can
be reduced to a mere physical nuissence." -- Kenneth Jernigan

Visit the I C.A.N. Foundation online at: www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"