[nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Tue Dec 6 01:13:34 UTC 2011

Hi=20Ashley,

You=20already=20have=20a=20BrailleNote,=20right?=20If=20so,=20you=20can=20j=
ust=20use=20
that=20as=20your=20Braille=20display=20for=20the=20IOS=20devices.=20=20Just=
=20check=20out=20
the=20podcast=20on=20pairing=20the=20BrailleNote=20with=20IOS=20devices=20o=
n=20
www.braillenoteusers.info.

Chris

"The=20real=20problem=20of=20blindness=20is=20not=20the=20loss=20of=20eyesi=
ght.=20=20The=20
real=20problem=20is=20the=20misunderstanding=20and=20lack=20of=20education=
=20that=20
exists.=20=20If=20a=20blind=20person=20has=20the=20proper=20training=20and=
=20
opportunity,=20blindness=20can=20be=20reduced=20to=20a=20mere=20physical=20=

nuisance."
--=20Kenneth=20Jernigan=20(President,=20National=20Federation=20of=20the=20=
Blind,=20
1968-1986

=20The=20I=20C.A.N.=20=20Foundation=20helps=20blind=20and=20visually=20impa=
ired=20youth=20
in=20Maryland=20say=20"I=20can,"=20by=20empowering=20them=20through=20provi=
ding=20
assistive=20technology=20and=20scholarships=20to=20camps=20and=20convention=
s=20
which=20help=20them=20be=20equal=20with=20their=20sighted=20peers.=20=20For=
=20more=20
information=20about=20the=20Foundation=20and=20to=20support=20our=20work,=20=
visit=20
us=20online=20at=20www.icanfoundation.info!

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Ashley=20Bramlett"=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Sat,=2026=20Nov=202011=2012:08:40=20-0500
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20ipad=20verses=20blindness=20products

Hope,
Oh,=20I=20wasn't=20aware=20you=20could=20substitute=20a=20bluetooth=20keybo=
ard=20for=20
the=20touch
screen;=20I=20thought=20you=20could=20type=20on=20the=20keyboard=20but=20st=
ill=20needed=20
the
screen.
So=20you're=20saying=20you=20can=20use=20the=20keyboard=20with=20voice=20ov=
er,=20and=20
operate=20it=20as
you=20would=20a=20computer=20then?
How=20many=20cells=20is=20your=20display?=20Wish=20I=20had=20one!=20they're=
=20so=20
expensive!
Good=20to=20know=20and=20maybe=20I=20might=20get=20an=20ipad=20or=20Ipod=20=
touch=20then.
Ashley

-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Hope=20Paulos
Sent:=20Saturday,=20November=2026,=202011=2011:52=20AM
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20ipad=20verses=20blindness=20products

I=20have=20a=20Seika=20braille=20display=20and=20a=20netbook=20and=20it=20w=
orks=20great.=20=20
ALso=20have
an=20ipod=20touch=20and=20am=20thinking=20about=20getting=20an=20iphone.=20=
=20You=20don't=20
have=20to=20use
the=20touch=20screen=20if=20you=20have=20a=20bluetooth=20keyboard.=20=20You=
=20just=20have=20
to=20remember
the=20keystrokes=20as=20you=20would=20on=20a=20PC.=20=20I'd=20go=20with=20t=
he=20IOS=20over=20
blindness
products=20every=20time=20if=20I=20had=20the=20chance.
Hope=20Paulos
-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Ashley=20Bramlett"=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent:=20Saturday,=20November=2026,=202011=2011:32=20AM
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20ipad=20verses=20blindness=20products

=20But=20I=20like=20the=20blindness=20notetaker=20because=20I=20can=20read=
=20and=20write=20
braille=20on
=20it.=20=20I=20think=20using=20a
=20touch=20screen=20would=20require=20a=20lot=20of=20memory=20and=20spatial=
=20
awareness.=20=20I
=20already=20have=20to=20memorize=20where=20things=20like=20end,=20send=20a=
nd=20okay=20
are=20on=20my
=20basic=20cell=20phone!=20But=20if=20an=20IOS=20devices=20works=20for=20so=
meone=20go=20
ahead;=20it=E2=80=99s=20a
=20lot=20more=20portable=20than=20a=20heavy=20braille=20notetaker.
=20I=20wonder=20what=20braille=20displays=20you=20can=20use=20with=20those=
=20IPhones=20
and=20IOS
=20devices.
=20Its=20cool=20that=20we=20have=20smaller,=20portable=20braille=20displays=
=20and=20
keyboards
=20now.
=20How=20neat=20to=20have=20those=20options.=20=20The=20only=20braille=20di=
splays=20I=20saw=20
were=20the
=20large=2040=20cell=20and=2080=20cell=20displays,=20although=20I=20am=20aw=
are=20of=20
smaller=20ones.

=20Ashley

=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20Humberto=20Avila
=20Sent:=20Friday,=20November=2025,=202011=2011:56=20PM
=20To:=20'National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list'
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20ipad=20verses=20blindness=20products

=20Yes,=20I=20think=20that=20is=20why=20some=20many=20blind=20people=20are=
=20using=20
iPhones=20and
=20iPads
=20as=20their=20personal=20note=20taking=20and=20at=20school=20too.=20=20I=
=20think=20that=20
these
=20mainstream=20IOS=20devices=20with=20voiceover=20will=20be=20the=20nearby=
=20future=20
of=20the
=20accessibility=20for=20the=20blind.=20=20Since=20those=20assistive=20tech=
nology=20
products
=20made
=20specifically=20for=20the=20blind=20are=20so=20expensive,=20blind=20peopl=
e=20are=20
going=20to
=20shift
=20to=20those=20devices,=20since=20they=20come=20with=20screen=20reading=20=

accessibility=20out=20of
=20the=20box.=20=20Plus,=20they=20are=20not=20as=20expensive.=20=20Addition=
ally,=20since=20
Braille
=20displays=20are=20not=20as=20expensive=20as=20note=20takers,=20some=20mig=
ht=20chose=20
the=20option
=20to
=20add=20a=20Braille=20display=20in=20combination=20to=20their=20IOS=20devi=
ce=20instead=20
of
=20purchasing=20those=20major=20products=20such=20as=20Pacmate=20and=20Brai=
lle=20
Note.=20=20If=20the
=20trend=20continues=20like=20I=20mentioned,=20the=20Vocational=20Rehabilit=
ation=20
agencies
=20better=20take=20notice=20of=20this=20and=20see=20fit.=20=20Besides,=20it=
=20would=20
benefit=20their
=20programs=20and=20services=20as=20well,=20and=20with=20this=20economy=20(=
if=20it=20
continues=20to
=20be
=20bad),=20they=20will=20not=20have=20to=20suffer=20budget=20cuts=20by=20tr=
ying=20to=20help
=20individuals
=20with=20their=20note=20takers=20because=20they=20are=20so=20expensive.
=20So,=20Humanware=20and=20freedom=20Scientific,=20I'm=20sorry=20if=20I=20o=
ffend=20you=20
at=20all,=20I
=20am
=20not=20trying=20to=20be=20mean.=20=20Otherwise=20don't=20listen=20please!=
!!!=20(huge=20
smile)

=20P.S.=20=20wondering=20if=20this=20listserve=20is=20that=20much=20public?=

=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org=20
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On
=20Behalf
=20Of=20Koby=20Cox
=20Sent:=20Friday,=20November=2025,=202011=208:39=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20ipad=20verses=20blindness=20products

=20Yes.
=20Koby.

=20Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone

=20On=20Nov=2025,=202011,=20at=2010:32=20PM,=20"RJ=20Sandefur"
=20<joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
=20wrote:

=20Thanks.=20=20Is=20voice=20over=20easy=20to=20learn?=20RJ
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----=20From:=20"Beth"=20
<thebluesisloose at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Friday,=20November=2025,=202011=2011:11=20PM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20ipad=20verses=20blindness=20products

=20I'd=20justify=20that=20the=20iPad=20is=20a=20cheap=20option.=20=20The=20=
BrailleNote=20is=20
hard=20to
=20repair=20and=20neeeds=20thousands=20of=20dollars=20just=20to=20maintain.=
=20=20I=20love=20
my=20BNQT
=20Apex,=20but=20let'=20face=20it.=20=20It's=20really=20expensive.
=20Beth
=20P.S.=20=20does=20anyone=20know=20what=20happened=20to=20Bluetooth=20on=20=
the=20
BrailleNote?

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"RJ=20Sandefur"=20<joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org=20Date=20sent:=20Fri,=2025=20Nov=202011=2023:08:10=20=
-0500
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20ipad=20verses=20blindness=20products

=20Guys,=20I=20have=20a=20braille=20'n=20speak,=20but=20I=20think=20it=20ha=
s=20bit=20the=20
dust.=20=20I=20was
=20thinking=20of=20getting=20a=20braille=20note,=20but=20some=20one=20sugge=
sted=20
getting=20an
=20iPad,
=20or=20a=20laptop.=20=20I=20did=20some=20research=20on=20the=20iPad,=20and=
=20here's=20what=20
I've=20found.
=20http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ipad/vision.html
=20Do=20any=20of=20you=20use=20iPad's,=20and=20if=20so,=20who=20purchased=20=
it=20for=20you?=20
If=20VR
=20purchased=20it,=20How=20do=20you=20justify=20need=20for=20an=20Ipad?=20S=
incerely,=20RJ
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