[nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Mon Dec 5 01:23:45 UTC 2011 

Hi Humberto,

It's a public archive, so if anyone goes to nfbnet.org and clicks 
on our page, they can see all the prior postings to the list.  
That's why when people post things that other people feel 
inappropriate for the list, they refer to the list as a "public, 
archived list." And, just my opinion; don't be afraid to tell the 
truth in this area, and don't worry about offending Humanware and 
Freedom Scientific.  They need to hear this, IMO! And if they 
want to stay in business, they need to (1) make products so 
they're a little more mainstreamed (this especially goes for 
Humanware and HIMS,) (2) reduce the price of their technology so 
it is more appealing to the small blind market, and (3) work with 
mainstream technology developers to help make their products 
accessible.  Probably Freedom Scientific will still be around 
because there will be a need for their high-quality products, 
especially JAWS and Braille displays, but HumanWare and HIMS...  
only time will tell, but I think their days are numbered.  It 
will probably be HIMS who are the first to go, as the 
BrailleSense is very outdated and is being upstaged by even the 
outdated BrailleNote.  As for Humanware...  I think the Braille 
displays will save their business by going completely under.  
However, sadly, I think my beloved BrailleNote's days are 
numbered.  Unless they update their technology, they will be 
quickly outdone by the push to make mainstream technology 
accessible.  Any thoughts?

Chris

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 20:56:35 -0800
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Yes, I think that is why some many blind people are using iPhones 
and iPads
as their personal note taking and at school too.  I think that 
these
mainstream IOS devices with voiceover will be the nearby future 
of the
accessibility for the blind.  Since those assistive technology 
products made
specifically for the blind are so expensive, blind people are 
going to shift
to those devices, since they come with screen reading 
accessibility out of
the box.  Plus, they are not as expensive.  Additionally, since 
Braille
displays are not as expensive as note takers, some might chose 
the option to
add a Braille display in combination to their IOS device instead 
of
purchasing those major products such as Pacmate and Braille Note.  
If the
trend continues like I mentioned, the Vocational Rehabilitation 
agencies
better take notice of this and see fit.  Besides, it would 
benefit their
programs and services as well, and with this economy (if it 
continues to be
bad), they will not have to suffer budget cuts by trying to help 
individuals
with their note takers because they are so expensive.
So, Humanware and freedom Scientific, I'm sorry if I offend you 
at all, I am
not trying to be mean.  Otherwise don't listen please!!!! (huge 
smile)

P.S.  wondering if this listserve is that much public?






-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Koby Cox
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 8:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Yes.
Koby.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 25, 2011, at 10:32 PM, "RJ Sandefur" 
<joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
wrote:

 Thanks.  Is voice over easy to learn? RJ
 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth" 
<thebluesisloose at gmail.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products


 I'd justify that the iPad is a cheap option.  The BrailleNote is 
hard to
repair and neeeds thousands of dollars just to maintain.  I love 
my BNQT
Apex, but let' face it.  It's really expensive.
 Beth
 P.S.  does anyone know what happened to Bluetooth on the 
BrailleNote?

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:08:10 -0500
 Subject: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

 Guys, I have a braille 'n speak, but I think it has bit the 
dust.  I was
thinking of getting a braille note, but some one suggested 
getting an iPad,
or a laptop.  I did some research on the iPad, and here's what 
I've found.
 http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ipad/vision.html
 Do any of you use iPad's, and if so, who purchased it for you? 
If VR
 purchased it, How do you justify need for an Ipad? Sincerely, RJ
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