[nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Mon Dec 5 01:30:51 UTC 2011

Hi, Chris. 1. Good points and: 2. Completely agree.
Also Will forward an email with a link to a site with v o commands to
you privately.

On 12/4/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Humberto,
>
> It's a public archive, so if anyone goes to nfbnet.org and clicks
> on our page, they can see all the prior postings to the list.
> That's why when people post things that other people feel
> inappropriate for the list, they refer to the list as a "public,
> archived list." And, just my opinion; don't be afraid to tell the
> truth in this area, and don't worry about offending Humanware and
> Freedom Scientific.  They need to hear this, IMO! And if they
> want to stay in business, they need to (1) make products so
> they're a little more mainstreamed (this especially goes for
> Humanware and HIMS,) (2) reduce the price of their technology so
> it is more appealing to the small blind market, and (3) work with
> mainstream technology developers to help make their products
> accessible.  Probably Freedom Scientific will still be around
> because there will be a need for their high-quality products,
> especially JAWS and Braille displays, but HumanWare and HIMS...
> only time will tell, but I think their days are numbered.  It
> will probably be HIMS who are the first to go, as the
> BrailleSense is very outdated and is being upstaged by even the
> outdated BrailleNote.  As for Humanware...  I think the Braille
> displays will save their business by going completely under.
> However, sadly, I think my beloved BrailleNote's days are
> numbered.  Unless they update their technology, they will be
> quickly outdone by the push to make mainstream technology
> accessible.  Any thoughts?
>
> Chris
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
> nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
> 1968-1986
>
>  The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
> in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
> assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
> which help them be equal with their sighted peers.  For more
> information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
> us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 20:56:35 -0800
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>
> Yes, I think that is why some many blind people are using iPhones
> and iPads
> as their personal note taking and at school too.  I think that
> these
> mainstream IOS devices with voiceover will be the nearby future
> of the
> accessibility for the blind.  Since those assistive technology
> products made
> specifically for the blind are so expensive, blind people are
> going to shift
> to those devices, since they come with screen reading
> accessibility out of
> the box.  Plus, they are not as expensive.  Additionally, since
> Braille
> displays are not as expensive as note takers, some might chose
> the option to
> add a Braille display in combination to their IOS device instead
> of
> purchasing those major products such as Pacmate and Braille Note.
> If the
> trend continues like I mentioned, the Vocational Rehabilitation
> agencies
> better take notice of this and see fit.  Besides, it would
> benefit their
> programs and services as well, and with this economy (if it
> continues to be
> bad), they will not have to suffer budget cuts by trying to help
> individuals
> with their note takers because they are so expensive.
> So, Humanware and freedom Scientific, I'm sorry if I offend you
> at all, I am
> not trying to be mean.  Otherwise don't listen please!!!! (huge
> smile)
>
> P.S.  wondering if this listserve is that much public?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Koby Cox
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 8:39 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>
> Yes.
> Koby.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 25, 2011, at 10:32 PM, "RJ Sandefur"
> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>  Thanks.  Is voice over easy to learn? RJ
>  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth"
> <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:11 PM
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>
>
>  I'd justify that the iPad is a cheap option.  The BrailleNote is
> hard to
> repair and neeeds thousands of dollars just to maintain.  I love
> my BNQT
> Apex, but let' face it.  It's really expensive.
>  Beth
>  P.S.  does anyone know what happened to Bluetooth on the
> BrailleNote?
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:08:10 -0500
>  Subject: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>
>  Guys, I have a braille 'n speak, but I think it has bit the
> dust.  I was
> thinking of getting a braille note, but some one suggested
> getting an iPad,
> or a laptop.  I did some research on the iPad, and here's what
> I've found.
>  http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ipad/vision.html
>  Do any of you use iPad's, and if so, who purchased it for you?
> If VR
>  purchased it, How do you justify need for an Ipad? Sincerely, RJ
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