[nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Mon Dec 5 02:26:25 UTC 2011

No, the braille sense supports many file types, even PDF I heard. And 
Braille Note made improvements in the apex. I don't see why their days are 
numbered for not keeping up. They can do about as much as a computer can! 
And you got the built in braille display and accessibility right there! The 
only reason why I think they might go is the cost. Blind people can rarely 
afford them except for those working at good paying jobs like in the 
government. And even vr agencies are leaning toward buying  less expensive 
mainstream products. So cost is why they might go out, IMO. Not the other 
reasons.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:23 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Hi Humberto,

It's a public archive, so if anyone goes to nfbnet.org and clicks
on our page, they can see all the prior postings to the list.
That's why when people post things that other people feel
inappropriate for the list, they refer to the list as a "public,
archived list." And, just my opinion; don't be afraid to tell the
truth in this area, and don't worry about offending Humanware and
Freedom Scientific.  They need to hear this, IMO! And if they
want to stay in business, they need to (1) make products so
they're a little more mainstreamed (this especially goes for
Humanware and HIMS,) (2) reduce the price of their technology so
it is more appealing to the small blind market, and (3) work with
mainstream technology developers to help make their products
accessible.  Probably Freedom Scientific will still be around
because there will be a need for their high-quality products,
especially JAWS and Braille displays, but HumanWare and HIMS...
only time will tell, but I think their days are numbered.  It
will probably be HIMS who are the first to go, as the
BrailleSense is very outdated and is being upstaged by even the
outdated BrailleNote.  As for Humanware...  I think the Braille
displays will save their business by going completely under.
However, sadly, I think my beloved BrailleNote's days are
numbered.  Unless they update their technology, they will be
quickly outdone by the push to make mainstream technology
accessible.  Any thoughts?

Chris

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 20:56:35 -0800
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Yes, I think that is why some many blind people are using iPhones
and iPads
as their personal note taking and at school too.  I think that
these
mainstream IOS devices with voiceover will be the nearby future
of the
accessibility for the blind.  Since those assistive technology
products made
specifically for the blind are so expensive, blind people are
going to shift
to those devices, since they come with screen reading
accessibility out of
the box.  Plus, they are not as expensive.  Additionally, since
Braille
displays are not as expensive as note takers, some might chose
the option to
add a Braille display in combination to their IOS device instead
of
purchasing those major products such as Pacmate and Braille Note.
If the
trend continues like I mentioned, the Vocational Rehabilitation
agencies
better take notice of this and see fit.  Besides, it would
benefit their
programs and services as well, and with this economy (if it
continues to be
bad), they will not have to suffer budget cuts by trying to help
individuals
with their note takers because they are so expensive.
So, Humanware and freedom Scientific, I'm sorry if I offend you
at all, I am
not trying to be mean.  Otherwise don't listen please!!!! (huge
smile)

P.S.  wondering if this listserve is that much public?

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Koby Cox
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 8:39 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Yes.
Koby.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 25, 2011, at 10:32 PM, "RJ Sandefur"
<joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
wrote:

Thanks.  Is voice over easy to learn? RJ
----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth"
<thebluesisloose at gmail.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

I'd justify that the iPad is a cheap option.  The BrailleNote is
hard to
repair and neeeds thousands of dollars just to maintain.  I love
my BNQT
Apex, but let' face it.  It's really expensive.
Beth
P.S.  does anyone know what happened to Bluetooth on the
BrailleNote?

----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:08:10 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Guys, I have a braille 'n speak, but I think it has bit the
dust.  I was
thinking of getting a braille note, but some one suggested
getting an iPad,
or a laptop.  I did some research on the iPad, and here's what
I've found.
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ipad/vision.html
Do any of you use iPad's, and if so, who purchased it for you?
If VR
purchased it, How do you justify need for an Ipad? Sincerely, RJ
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