[nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Mon Dec 5 01:36:37 UTC 2011

Hi Josh,

Great! Thanks! Now, if I can only get Skype to work, I can talk with
you on Skype... we'll see.

Chris

On 12/4/11, josh gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Chris. 1. Good points and: 2. Completely agree.
> Also Will forward an email with a link to a site with v o commands to
> you privately.
>
> On 12/4/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Humberto,
>>
>> It's a public archive, so if anyone goes to nfbnet.org and clicks
>> on our page, they can see all the prior postings to the list.
>> That's why when people post things that other people feel
>> inappropriate for the list, they refer to the list as a "public,
>> archived list." And, just my opinion; don't be afraid to tell the
>> truth in this area, and don't worry about offending Humanware and
>> Freedom Scientific.  They need to hear this, IMO! And if they
>> want to stay in business, they need to (1) make products so
>> they're a little more mainstreamed (this especially goes for
>> Humanware and HIMS,) (2) reduce the price of their technology so
>> it is more appealing to the small blind market, and (3) work with
>> mainstream technology developers to help make their products
>> accessible.  Probably Freedom Scientific will still be around
>> because there will be a need for their high-quality products,
>> especially JAWS and Braille displays, but HumanWare and HIMS...
>> only time will tell, but I think their days are numbered.  It
>> will probably be HIMS who are the first to go, as the
>> BrailleSense is very outdated and is being upstaged by even the
>> outdated BrailleNote.  As for Humanware...  I think the Braille
>> displays will save their business by going completely under.
>> However, sadly, I think my beloved BrailleNote's days are
>> numbered.  Unless they update their technology, they will be
>> quickly outdone by the push to make mainstream technology
>> accessible.  Any thoughts?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
>> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
>> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
>> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
>> nuisance."
>> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
>> 1968-1986
>>
>>  The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
>> in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
>> assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
>> which help them be equal with their sighted peers.  For more
>> information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
>> us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 20:56:35 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>
>> Yes, I think that is why some many blind people are using iPhones
>> and iPads
>> as their personal note taking and at school too.  I think that
>> these
>> mainstream IOS devices with voiceover will be the nearby future
>> of the
>> accessibility for the blind.  Since those assistive technology
>> products made
>> specifically for the blind are so expensive, blind people are
>> going to shift
>> to those devices, since they come with screen reading
>> accessibility out of
>> the box.  Plus, they are not as expensive.  Additionally, since
>> Braille
>> displays are not as expensive as note takers, some might chose
>> the option to
>> add a Braille display in combination to their IOS device instead
>> of
>> purchasing those major products such as Pacmate and Braille Note.
>> If the
>> trend continues like I mentioned, the Vocational Rehabilitation
>> agencies
>> better take notice of this and see fit.  Besides, it would
>> benefit their
>> programs and services as well, and with this economy (if it
>> continues to be
>> bad), they will not have to suffer budget cuts by trying to help
>> individuals
>> with their note takers because they are so expensive.
>> So, Humanware and freedom Scientific, I'm sorry if I offend you
>> at all, I am
>> not trying to be mean.  Otherwise don't listen please!!!! (huge
>> smile)
>>
>> P.S.  wondering if this listserve is that much public?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Koby Cox
>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 8:39 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>
>> Yes.
>> Koby.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2011, at 10:32 PM, "RJ Sandefur"
>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks.  Is voice over easy to learn? RJ
>>  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth"
>> <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>  Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:11 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>
>>
>>  I'd justify that the iPad is a cheap option.  The BrailleNote is
>> hard to
>> repair and neeeds thousands of dollars just to maintain.  I love
>> my BNQT
>> Apex, but let' face it.  It's really expensive.
>>  Beth
>>  P.S.  does anyone know what happened to Bluetooth on the
>> BrailleNote?
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:08:10 -0500
>>  Subject: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>
>>  Guys, I have a braille 'n speak, but I think it has bit the
>> dust.  I was
>> thinking of getting a braille note, but some one suggested
>> getting an iPad,
>> or a laptop.  I did some research on the iPad, and here's what
>> I've found.
>>  http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ipad/vision.html
>>  Do any of you use iPad's, and if so, who purchased it for you?
>> If VR
>>  purchased it, How do you justify need for an Ipad? Sincerely, RJ
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Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists. If
a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can
be reduced to a mere physical nuissence." -- Kenneth Jernigan

Visit the I C.A.N. Foundation online at: www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"