[nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Tue Dec 6 01:13:34 UTC 2011 

Hi Ashley,

You already have a BrailleNote, right? If so, you can just use 
that as your Braille display for the IOS devices.  Just check out 
the podcast on pairing the BrailleNote with IOS devices on 
www.braillenoteusers.info.

Chris

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:08:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Hope,
Oh, I wasn't aware you could substitute a bluetooth keyboard for 
the touch
screen; I thought you could type on the keyboard but still needed 
the
screen.
So you're saying you can use the keyboard with voice over, and 
operate it as
you would a computer then?
How many cells is your display? Wish I had one! they're so 
expensive!
Good to know and maybe I might get an ipad or Ipod touch then.
Ashley

-----Original Message-----
From: Hope Paulos
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:52 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

I have a Seika braille display and a netbook and it works great.  
ALso have
an ipod touch and am thinking about getting an iphone.  You don't 
have to use
the touch screen if you have a bluetooth keyboard.  You just have 
to remember
the keystrokes as you would on a PC.  I'd go with the IOS over 
blindness
products every time if I had the chance.
Hope Paulos
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products


 But I like the blindness notetaker because I can read and write 
braille on
 it.  I think using a
 touch screen would require a lot of memory and spatial 
awareness.  I
 already have to memorize where things like end, send and okay 
are on my
 basic cell phone! But if an IOS devices works for someone go 
ahead; it’s a
 lot more portable than a heavy braille notetaker.
 I wonder what braille displays you can use with those IPhones 
and IOS
 devices.
 Its cool that we have smaller, portable braille displays and 
keyboards
 now.
 How neat to have those options.  The only braille displays I saw 
were the
 large 40 cell and 80 cell displays, although I am aware of 
smaller ones.

 Ashley


 -----Original Message-----
 From: Humberto Avila
 Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:56 PM
 To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

 Yes, I think that is why some many blind people are using 
iPhones and
 iPads
 as their personal note taking and at school too.  I think that 
these
 mainstream IOS devices with voiceover will be the nearby future 
of the
 accessibility for the blind.  Since those assistive technology 
products
 made
 specifically for the blind are so expensive, blind people are 
going to
 shift
 to those devices, since they come with screen reading 
accessibility out of
 the box.  Plus, they are not as expensive.  Additionally, since 
Braille
 displays are not as expensive as note takers, some might chose 
the option
 to
 add a Braille display in combination to their IOS device instead 
of
 purchasing those major products such as Pacmate and Braille 
Note.  If the
 trend continues like I mentioned, the Vocational Rehabilitation 
agencies
 better take notice of this and see fit.  Besides, it would 
benefit their
 programs and services as well, and with this economy (if it 
continues to
 be
 bad), they will not have to suffer budget cuts by trying to help
 individuals
 with their note takers because they are so expensive.
 So, Humanware and freedom Scientific, I'm sorry if I offend you 
at all, I
 am
 not trying to be mean.  Otherwise don't listen please!!!! (huge 
smile)

 P.S.  wondering if this listserve is that much public?






 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
 Behalf
 Of Koby Cox
 Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 8:39 PM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

 Yes.
 Koby.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 25, 2011, at 10:32 PM, "RJ Sandefur"
 <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks.  Is voice over easy to learn? RJ
 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth" 
<thebluesisloose at gmail.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products


 I'd justify that the iPad is a cheap option.  The BrailleNote is 
hard to
 repair and neeeds thousands of dollars just to maintain.  I love 
my BNQT
 Apex, but let' face it.  It's really expensive.
 Beth
 P.S.  does anyone know what happened to Bluetooth on the 
BrailleNote?

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:08:10 -0500
 Subject: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

 Guys, I have a braille 'n speak, but I think it has bit the 
dust.  I was
 thinking of getting a braille note, but some one suggested 
getting an
 iPad,
 or a laptop.  I did some research on the iPad, and here's what 
I've found.
 http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ipad/vision.html
 Do any of you use iPad's, and if so, who purchased it for you? 
If VR
 purchased it, How do you justify need for an Ipad? Sincerely, RJ
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