[nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk]GoogleSearchSettingsPageNoLongerAccessible
Chris Nusbaum
dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Sun Dec 18 17:39:08 UTC 2011
Thanks! I will save this email and refer back to it.
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
1968-1986
The I C.A.N. Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
which help them be equal with their sighted peers. For more
information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 20:35:35 -0800
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW:
[gui-talk]GoogleSearchSettingsPageNoLongerAccessible
Hello Chris,
Their instructions for doing this are at the web site. All you
have to do is
once you create the account with the solona web site, you will
get a page
where there is a link to download a free piece of software called
the solona
captcha tool. This tool will do all the housekeeping for you.
When you go on
a sign up web page that has an inaccessible captcha, you won't
suffer now.
Your problem can now be resolved by pressing a simple keystroke
(It is
control+Alt+S I believe by default; you can change it under the
options
dialog from the system tray), and the tool must be running in the
system
tray in order for this to work. After pressing the hot key, you
will hear
the camera sound indicating it is over taking the picture of the
current
foreground which is the web page you are sending with the
inaccessible
captcha. Next, you want to open a new tab on your browser or
window. Then
you go to www.solona.net and click the link to log in. then when
you log in,
there is a combo box that says the options you want. Scroll to
captcha and
hit continue. Then you can follow the instructions to submit the
captcha.
Basically, you upload the .png image file that the captcha tool
created to
the service. Then you will get a page, after submitting the
file, about what
to do and how to wait for the response. The response will be
enclosed in a
read-only edit box, (in case you don't know what those are, they
are the
edit boxes that do not allow you to type.) you must hit the
refresh button
provided on the web page (not the f5 key!) in order to receive
the code of
the captcha on that read only edit box.
Before venturing out with this wonderful service, please read all
instructions carefully and all procedures regarding privacy and
stuff
because, for example, they want the page containing the captcha
to not be
filled out of anything for sake of privacy. There are also
instructions of
where to find and change how the captcha tool manages file paths
and the
file for the image. All of this is again on the site.
Lastly another word of warning, the solona service has a
drawback. If when
you log in, there is a message on the page that says "captcha
solution
service unavailable," please don't freak, it just means that
there are
currently no sighted volunteers to help with captcha solving at
that time.
In such case you can wait a couple hours or until the next day.
Again this
might be the only drawback.
Hope this instruction booklet, embedded in an email, helps you!
(smile)
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 5:19 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk]
GoogleSearchSettingsPageNoLongerAccessible
Thanks so much, Humberto! So, what do you do to submit a captcha
image to Solona readers? And how do they get it back to you?
Thanks!
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
1968-1986
The I C.A.N. Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
which help them be equal with their sighted peers. For more
information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:41:27 -0800
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google
SearchSettingsPageNoLongerAccessible
Hello Chris and Josh,
The address for the solona captcha services is:
http://www.solona.net.
This is a web based service that allows you to submit images of
the web page
that has a captcha in it, then wait a few seconds until a
volunteer reader
at the other end responds with the captcha code. You must sign
up for this
service and the sign up process is fast and easy, it is free,
and, of
course, does not require any challenging audio captchas or visual
ones.
Please try it out and let us know. Please note: this is no
automated
robotic artificial intelligence remote service that scans
captchas and sends
them to you in clear text form. Volunteer personnel participate
to send the
captchas to subscribers. To read more go to the web site at
www.solona.net.
There are more instructions and policies.
Hope this helps you guys!
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 2:02 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google Search
SettingsPageNoLongerAccessible
Hi Joshua,
As for kaptcha programs for Internet Explorer, there is one. It
is called Solona. I'm not sure of the Web address which you can
go to to get the program; can someone send that to the list and
help both Joshua and I out? As to how to get a Gmail account,
here is the procedure:
1. Go to www.gmail.com.
2. When the page loads, you are taken to a screen where you can
either sign in if you have a Gmail account or create one. Click
the "create an account" link. It is right after the form fields
for username and password.
3. Fill out the applicable form fields on the account page.
Your "login name" is the email address that you want to have.
For example, joshua.lester at gmail.com. When you type in your
email address that you want to have, leave out the @gmail.com
part, as that will be automatically filled in. Be sure to click
the "check availability" button to make sure the email address
you have chosen hasn't been already taken.
4. During your creating an account process, you'll have to
either select a "security question" from the combo box or create
your own. This is a question that you have to answer if you
forget your password and want to access your Gmail account.
5. When you get to the bottom and it says "type the characters
you see," you'll either have to use WebVisum or Solona, depending
on what browser you're using, or (unfortunately) you're going to
have to ask a sighted person to read the kaptcha to you. Maybe
you can do this while you are in a session with your reader. I
know it's annoying, and kaptchas need to be accessible, but
that's what you have to do currently. Sorry!
Please note that once you have your Gmail account set up and you
try to go into the Web interface, you need to click the "basic
HTML" link. This is because when you first create your account,
it will be set to standard view, which isn't accessible. Once
you have selected basic HTML view, go into your Settings and
click "set basic HTML as default view." Let me know if you have
any questions! Hope this helps!
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
1968-1986
The I C.A.N. Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
which help them be equal with their sighted peers. For more
information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:29:18 -0600
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google Search Settings
PageNoLongerAccessible
Chris, how did you get your GMail service?
I did contact Web Visom's people, but they never responded.
I also found out, that it only works with Firefox.
I need something that will work for Internet Explorer.
They seriously need to fix their audio captcha!
Thanks, Joshua
On 12/16/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
Wow! Yahoo and accessible; two words I thought I would never
hear
in the same sentence! Well, now it's true! I'm still sticking
with my Gmail account, but even with that I'm mainly using a
third-party email client.
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the
Blind,
1968-1986
The I C.A.N. Foundation helps blind and visually impaired
youth
in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
which help them be equal with their sighted peers. For more
information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
----- Original Message -----
From: Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,National Association of Blind Students
mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:25:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google Search Settings Page
NoLongerAccessible
YAHOO seems to be more accessable, than Gmail.At 03:59 PM
12/13/2011,
Joshua Lester wrote:
I haven't had any problems doing searches.
Navigating other parts of the site, may be a problem.
Even GMail's audio Captcha is inaccessible.
It won't play.
Google has a long way to go, as far as accessibility is
concerned.
Blessings, Joshua
On 12/13/11, Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
wrote:
Hello Joshua,
I just looked at this myself and, to my knowledge, they are
using sliders
that you can slide with a mouse instead of combo boxes,
checkboxes and radio
buttons. These sliders, of course, are not accessible with
JAWS
and NVDA.
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Joshua Lester
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:48 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google Search Settings
Page
No
LongerAccessible
It is accessible.
It says, "Screenreader users, click here."
Blessings, Joshua
On 12/13/11, Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
wrote:
I am bringing this to your attention as it looks like this
change occurred
just today. Please read on. This company is facing another
possible
lawsuit.
-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:13 AM
To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [gui-talk] Google Search Settings Page No Longer
Accessible
Hi list. Has anyone else noticed that you can no longer change
your
search
preferences on the Google Search Settings page? The radio
boxes
previously
used to select a particular option under each heading seem to
have
vanished.
For instance, under the Google Instant heading, On and Off are
listed, but
there are no radio or check boxes to select the option you
want.
And
under
the Number of Search Results Per Page heading, the numbers 10,
20, 30, 40,
50 and 100 are listed, but there seems to be no way to select
the number
you
want. And nothing happens when you hit Space or Enter on the
Save button,
so there is apparently no way to activate it to save your
preferences like
you could before. I have tried JAWS 9, NVDA and SA to Go with
both IE 8
and
Firefox, but can't select anything on the Search Settings page
no matter
what screen reader/browser combination I try. Has Google
suddenly made
its
Search Settings page inaccessible, and is there any work around
for this
problem? Google seems to be becoming less and less accessible
every day.
Maybe the NFB should look into this issue. Thanks for any
feedback.
Gerald
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