[nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of time!

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Sat Dec 24 06:08:11 UTC 2011


I don't shut them out, but I kindly show them that there's a better
philosophy, than the one that they have.
Blessings, Joshua

On 12/23/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi,
> As I said people of all kinds go to LWSB and other training centers.
> If you don't want to be involved in a particular group, just tell those
> students and they'll back off.
> I can say the same about NFB. Our state center is now run by a federationist
> and events for NFB are advertised there. Yet many students do not want to
> join. Some check it out and don't join; others ignore the idea.
>
> Unless you go to an nfb center, you will find blind people with varying
> acceptance of blindness and different philosophies.
> Some join groups; others do not; and most blind people are unaffiliated. But
> Joshua, if you only hang out with people in nfb, you shut out many other
> people. I'm friends with those in the other consumer group and those that
> are in no group.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 8:38 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of time!
>
> Me too! I love the Federation's philosophy about blindness, and
> am glad I found the NFB!
>
> Chris
>
> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
> nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
> 1968-1986
>
> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
> in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
> assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
> which help them be equal with their sighted peers.  For more
> information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
> us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:28:19 -0600
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of time!
>
> I don't want to say the guy's name on here, because he may join
> this
> list, and the NFB, and I don't want to have his name archived
> here.
> I will say this.
> While I was there, he tried to recruit me to join the ACB.
> I wasn't interested in joining, but I researched them.
> I didn't like what I found, but this was how I found the NFB.
> I'm glad I found the NFB, and I'm glad I'm a part of it, and I'm
> glad
> I didn't join the other group.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 12/23/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> Why would the NFB have a strong presence there if we don't
> sponsor/support the place? And one CCB (California Council of
> the
> Blind) member doesn't constitute a strong presence by the ACB.
> If it was Mitch Pomerantz or someone like that, maybe, but this
> person was a rank-and-file member, right?
>
> Chris
>
> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
> nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the
> Blind,
> 1968-1986
>
>   The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired
> youth
> in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
> assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
> which help them be equal with their sighted peers.  For more
> information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
> us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:30:09 -0600
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of time!
>
> Why didn't the NFB have a strong presence there, in 2007, when I
> was
> enrolled there?
> Thanks, Joshua
>
> On 12/23/11, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   Just to clear some things.
>   Lions World Services for the Blind is now World Services for
> the
> Blind to
>   better reflect its' mission and to allow other organizations
> including the
>   Lions Club.
>   Also the World Services for the Blind is not sponsored by the
> ACB or the
>   NFB.  Just because a member of the California Council of the
> Blind happen to
>   attend there, does not mean that ACB sponsores it or supports
> it.  There have
>   many NFB members who attend World Services for the Blind and
> local chapter
>   of the NFB has started having its' meetings there.
>
>   Anmol
>   I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me
> sad.
> Perhaps
>   there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague,
> like a breeze
>   among flowers.
>   Hellen Keller
>
>
>   --- On Fri, 12/23/11, Joshua Lester
> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>
>   From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of time!
>   To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>   <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>   Date: Friday, December 23, 2011, 6:05 PM
>   Lions World Services for the Blind,
>   www.lwsb.org.
>   They're sponsored by the Lions Club, (hence their name.)
>   Also, from what I gather, because of my time there, is that
>   they're
>   sponsored by the ACB, because the California Council of the
>   Blind sent
>   one of their members, to be a trainee at the center.
>   Blessings, Joshua
>
>   On 12/23/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>   wrote:
>   Is LWSB your state center?
>
>   Chris
>
>   Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>
>   "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of
>   eyesight.  The
>   real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of
>   education that
>   exists.  If a blind person has the proper
>   training and
>   opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere
>   physical
>   nuisance."
>   -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of
>   the Blind,
>   1968-1986
>
>    The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and
>   visually impaired youth
>   in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through
>   providing
>   assistive technology and scholarships to camps and
>   conventions
>   which help them be equal with their sighted
>   peers.  For more
>   information about the Foundation and to support our
>   work, visit
>   us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>   To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>   list
>   <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>   Date sent: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 22:06:32 -0600
>   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of time!
>
>   They're part of the state.
>   I will say this, since you brought up Vocational
>   Rehab.
>   When I still had them, they were the ones that forced
>   me to
>   attend LWSB.
>   I wonder what the DSB would think about funding me, if
>   I wanted
>   to go to LCB.
>   Blessings, Joshua
>
>   On 12/22/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>   wrote:
>    so DSB is part of your colleges's DSS
>   then.  They can be slow.
>   Just stay on
>    them and advocate
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Joshua Lester
>    Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:06 PM
>    To: National Association of Blind Students
>   mailing list
>    Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of
>   time!
>
>    I didn't have issues with VR, because I didn't
>   use them much.
>    I only used the Division of Services for the
>   Blind, from the
>    Department of Social Services.
>    The VR Counselor retired, and now we don't have
>   VR in my state.
>    The Department of Services for the Blind, (of
>   the DSS,) is very
>   slow
>    in getting the adequate help that I need.
>    They won't even supply the things I need in
>   class.
>    These are the people I've been complaining about
>   on this list,
>   for months!
>    Blessings, Joshua
>
>    On 12/22/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>   wrote:
>    Joshua,
>    I'm confused.  You met at your college or
>   were supposed to.  But
>   is this
>    counselor your disability counselor from school
>   or the state
>   agency?
>    If you mean the vr agency, I sympathize with you
>   because I don't
>   get much
>    from my counselor either.  All of them are
>   horrible about
>   communication.
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Joshua Lester
>    Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:15 PM
>    To: National Association of Blind Students
>   mailing list
>    Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of
>   time!
>
>    All of the DSB people have been this way.
>    I'm tired of dealing with them!
>    Blessings, Joshua
>
>    On 12/22/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>   wrote:
>    Wow! What a waste of time! OK, lesson to learn
>   about this woman;
>    she's not organized!
>
>    Chris
>
>    "The real problem of blindness is not the loss
>   of eyesight.  The
>    real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of
>   education that
>    exists.  If a blind person has the proper
>   training and
>    opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere
>   physical
>    nuisance."
>    -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National
>   Federation of the
>   Blind,
>    1968-1986
>
>     The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps
>   blind and visually impaired
>   youth
>    in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them
>   through providing
>    assistive technology and scholarships to camps
>   and conventions
>    which help them be equal with their sighted
>   peers.  For more
>    information about the Foundation and to support
>   our work, visit
>    us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>    To: National Association of Blind Students
>   mailing list
>    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>    Date sent: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:19:02 -0600
>    Subject: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of time!
>
>    Hi, it's Joshua Lester.
>    I'm tired of these slow DSB people!
>    I went to the college, to meet Ms Audrey, (my
>   counselor,) but
>   she
>    didn't show up!
>    She called us, at the last minute, and told us
>   that she went to
>    the
>    campus, 30 miles away.
>    She Googled our college, and only saw that one,
>   and said she
>    never
>    thought that they'd have a campus so close to
>   it.
>    The woman also misunderstood what we said, but
>   instead of
>   calling
>    our
>    cell phone, she called our home phone.
>    She thought we said to meet us at the
>   "Community," center.
>    She was supposed to meet us at the student
>   center.
>    She should have called our cell, so we could
>   clear it up.
>    Anyway, we're about to have her E-mail the staff
>   members, that
>    she
>    needed to meet with.
>    On another note, I have my Spring schedule.
>    I have a monday, and wednesday class, from
>   6:30/9:20, wich will
>    keep
>    me out of church.
>    This has been a bad day!
>    Blessings, Joshua
>
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