[nabs-l] Technology on your campus
Bridgit Pollpeter
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Tue Feb 8 17:31:50 UTC 2011
Ashley,
I attend the University of Nebraska in Omaha. The Disability Services
Office here provides JAWS 9.0 on several computers on campus including
one in the library, and these computers also have Zoom Text. They have
the ability to scan textbooks and format them in an accessible document.
They also contact publishers and RFBD to find the material I need each
semester.
They can provide Braille material, but they outsource for this.
I do a lot of stuff on my own though. I know they provide other
services but I am not sure what that all entails.
The DSO will let me know if books are available through Book Share, but
I have my own Book Share membership so I download copies on my own to my
laptop. I also use my Netbook for classes so the only time I use a
campus computer is when I take test since I usually go through the
Testing Center.
We also have a Network for Disability Awareness which is a division of
student government, and I work in this office. We have our own computer
lab with an accessible computer along with an accessible
scanner/magnification product.
Again, all my actual technology-- computer, note taker, book reader--
are mine. Really the only thing I rely on the DSO for is my books. I
do a lot of scanning on my own too since I have the ability at home, and
I am a control freak! LOL
Bridgit
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:00:15 -0500
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Hi all,
I?m meeting with an ADA coordinator for nova, the community college.
Jaws is very out of date and they do not provide enough technology on
campus. What technology does your school provide, high tech and low
tech, for you? Please say what school you attend. I?m collecting this
information to present to th4e coordinator so she knows what other
campuses provide. Thanks. Sincerely, Ashley
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:00:37 -0600
From: Ashley <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
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Hello,
Sorry about going a little off topic here, but I had this program on my
computer, and was using it to convert PDF files into text ones. I
uninstalled it because the instalation was corrupt. I thought I could
find the program again, but apparently the page is no longer there. I
really need this program because my professor sends his notes in PDF
format, so if anyone has it and can help me to locate it, contact me
off-list. I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance for any
assistance in resolving this issue. Ashley
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:11:01 -0600
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] technology on your campus
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On 2/7/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I?m meeting with an ADA coordinator for nova, the community college.
> Jaws is very out of date and they do not provide enough technology on
> campus. What technology does your school provide, high tech and low
> tech, for you? Please say what school you attend. I?m collecting this
> information to present to th4e coordinator so she knows what other
> campuses provide. Thanks.
> Sincerely,
> Ashley
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:13:22 -0500
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
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What's your email adress? RJ
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From: "Ashley" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:00 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
> Hello,
> Sorry about going a little off topic here, but I had this program on
> my computer, and was using it to convert PDF files into text ones. I
> uninstalled it because the instalation was corrupt. I thought I could
> find the program again, but apparently the page is no longer there. I
> really need this program because my professor sends his notes in PDF
> format, so if anyone has it and can help me to locate it, contact me
> off-list. I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance for
> any assistance in resolving this issue. Ashley
>
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:15:17 -0500
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
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Ashley,
It's not quite what you're looking for, but here's a link where you can
download Jamal's PDF2TXT program. You can read more about it here:
http://empowermentzone.com/OpenSourceProjects.htm
Joe
"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam
Ewing
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:01 PM
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Subject: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
Hello,
Sorry about going a little off topic here, but I had this program on my
computer, and was using it to convert PDF files into text ones. I
uninstalled it because the instalation was corrupt. I thought I could
find the program again, but apparently the page is no longer there. I
really need this program because my professor sends his notes in PDF
format, so if anyone has it and can help me to locate it, contact me
off-list. I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance for any
assistance in resolving this issue. Ashley
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 20:21:48 -0500
From: Jorge Paez <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
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Hi.
Just use http://www.zamzar.com.
Its free,
and can convert PDFs to doc, docx, txt, or rtf.
Jorge
On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Ashley wrote:
> Hello,
> Sorry about going a little off topic here, but I had this program on
> my computer, and was using it to convert PDF files into text ones. I
> uninstalled it because the instalation was corrupt. I thought I could
> find the program again, but apparently the page is no longer there. I
> really need this program because my professor sends his notes in PDF
> format, so if anyone has it and can help me to locate it, contact me
> off-list. I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance for
> any assistance in resolving this issue. Ashley
>
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:31:01 -0500
From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] technology on your campus
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Here in Pennsylvania, my community college provides, numerous computers,
including desktops and laptops with Jaws. There are several computers
with Kurzwwil and scanners, the version of Kurweild they have is the
3000 version, so its not so blind person friendly. My CC has also
Braille my math text book this semester. There are several CCTV's on the
campus too, but I don't use them.
The college name is Bucks county community College, in Newtown PA.
HTH
Marsha
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Hi all,
I'm meeting with an ADA coordinator for nova, the community college.
Jaws is very out of date and they do not provide enough technology on
campus. What technology does your school provide, high tech and low
tech, for you? Please say what school you attend. I'm collecting this
information to present to th4e coordinator so she knows what other
campuses provide. Thanks. Sincerely, Ashley
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:37:13 -0500
From: Albert Yoo <albert.k.yoo at gmail.com>
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Subject: [nabs-l] Washington seminar
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Who attended Washington Seminar? Which issues were the legislative
representatives will to listen too? Which do you think might get passed?
Albert
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:46:27 -0500
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This sounds useful. Where do you get it?
-----Original Message-----
From: RJ Sandefur
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:13 PM
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What's your email adress? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:00 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
> Hello,
> Sorry about going a little off topic here, but I had this program on
> my computer, and was using it to convert PDF files into text ones. I
> uninstalled it because the instalation was corrupt. I thought I could
> find the program again, but apparently the page is no longer there. I
> really need this program because my professor sends his notes in PDF
> format, so if anyone has it and can help me to locate it, contact me
> off-list. I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance for
> any assistance in resolving this issue. Ashley
>
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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:47:20 -0500
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George,
Do you know if this software works with pdf scanned images too?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jorge Paez
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
Hi.
Just use http://www.zamzar.com.
Its free,
and can convert PDFs to doc, docx, txt, or rtf.
Jorge
On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Ashley wrote:
> Hello,
> Sorry about going a little off topic here, but I had this program on
> my computer, and was using it to convert PDF files into text ones. I
> uninstalled it because the instalation was corrupt. I thought I could
> find the program again, but apparently the page is no longer there. I
> really need this program because my professor sends his notes in PDF
> format, so if anyone has it and can help me to locate it, contact me
> off-list. I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance for
> any assistance in resolving this issue. Ashley
>
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 20:51:50 -0500
From: "Brian Hatgelakas" <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
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Daniel,
For blindness skills training I'd recommend the Carroll Center For the
Blind
in Newton Mass. You get more one on one training and they don't force
you
in an apartment from day one! Easing ones self into something like that
is
the best thing. It was what I needed!
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
> Very good. I'm constantly tweeting, so that's a great way to keep in
> touch! What did you play?
>
> On 2/7/11, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi, Daniel. My name is Beth. Welcome to NABS. I'm a musician bby
>> blood trade, but I have since switched to social work. I'm going to
>> graduate soon from the Colorado center for the Blind. Thank Goodness
>> you have Twitter. Me too. You could never guess, but m Twitter name
>> is denverqueen0920. My Skype is jazzychic2. My AIM iss the same as
>> my twitter. Beth
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Daniel Romero <djdan567 at gmail.com
>> To: Nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 08:26:26 -0500
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
>>
>> Hey all! I'm Daniel Romero, a blind musician, music producer, and
>> singer from New Jersey. i am an active member in the NJABS (New
>> Jersey Association of Blind Students) and also heavily active in a
>> highschool
>> program in NJ called LEAD.
>> I ment to subscribe to this list a long time ago. Also, seeing
>> how
>> involved all students were in Washington last week, I thought it
>> would
>> be a great idea to join the list and interact with fello students
>> around the country. For those who were their in Washing, at the
>> NABS
>> meeting, I represented New Jersey.
>> So that's pretty much Daniel Romero. IF you want to know more,
>> you
>> know where to contact me. Take care guys!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel C Romero
>> Paterson New Jersey
>> MSN messenger/E-mail:
>> djdan567 at gmail.com
>> Aim: RadioDJ246
>> Skype: radiodj246
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/djdan567
>>
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>
>
> --
> Daniel C Romero
> Paterson New Jersey
>
> Cell Phone: 973-955-6955
> Studio/Office: 973-707-6844
> MSN messenger/E-mail:
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:52:21 -0600
From: Ashley <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
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Good question, actually.
I got the program from here: http://www.empowermentzone.com/palsetup.exe
However, the page is no longer available, which is why I need to find
the program again. That one seems to work best for me. I have tried some
of the other suggestions but they don't seem to work all that well. I
will continue to check back for anymore useful help. Thank you. Ashley
On 2/7/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> George,
> Do you know if this software works with pdf scanned images too?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jorge Paez
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:21 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
>
> Hi.
> Just use http://www.zamzar.com.
>
> Its free,
> and can convert PDFs to doc, docx, txt, or rtf.
>
> Jorge
>
> On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Ashley wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> Sorry about going a little off topic here, but I had this program on
>> my computer, and was using it to convert PDF files into text ones. I
>> uninstalled it because the instalation was corrupt. I thought I could
>> find the program again, but apparently the page is no longer there. I
>> really need this program because my professor sends his notes in PDF
>> format, so if anyone has it and can help me to locate it, contact me
>> off-list. I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance for
>> any assistance in resolving this issue. Ashley
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:06:44 -0500
From: "Brian Hatgelakas" <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
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what is your email address Ashley?
----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
> What's your email adress? RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:00 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
>
>
>> Hello,
>> Sorry about going a little off topic here, but I had this program on
>> my computer, and was using it to convert PDF files into text ones. I
>> uninstalled it because the instalation was corrupt. I thought I could
>> find the program again, but apparently the page is no longer there. I
>> really need this program because my professor sends his notes in PDF
>> format, so if anyone has it and can help me to locate it, contact me
>> off-list. I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance for
>> any assistance in resolving this issue. Ashley
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 26
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:25:46 -0500
From: Jorge Paez <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
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That may be good, I've heard of the program,
though if you're looking for more intensive stuff, BLIND INC.
http://www.blindinc.org will do it.
Jorge
On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Brian Hatgelakas wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> For blindness skills training I'd recommend the Carroll Center For the
> Blind in Newton Mass. You get more one on one training and they don't
force you in an apartment from day one! Easing ones self into something
like that is the best thing. It was what I needed!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Romero"
<djdan567 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
>
>
>> Very good. I'm constantly tweeting, so that's a great way to keep in
>> touch! What did you play?
>>
>> On 2/7/11, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi, Daniel. My name is Beth. Welcome to NABS. I'm a musician bby
>>> blood trade, but I have since switched to social work. I'm going to
>>> graduate soon from the Colorado center for the Blind. Thank Goodness
>>> you have Twitter. Me too. You could never guess, but m Twitter
>>> name is denverqueen0920. My Skype is jazzychic2. My AIM iss the
>>> same as my twitter. Beth
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Daniel Romero <djdan567 at gmail.com
>>> To: Nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 08:26:26 -0500
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
>>>
>>> Hey all! I'm Daniel Romero, a blind musician, music producer, and
>>> singer from New Jersey. i am an active member in the NJABS (New
>>> Jersey Association of Blind Students) and also heavily active in a
>>> highschool
>>> program in NJ called LEAD.
>>> I ment to subscribe to this list a long time ago. Also, seeing
>>> how
>>> involved all students were in Washington last week, I thought it
>>> would
>>> be a great idea to join the list and interact with fello students
>>> around the country. For those who were their in Washing, at the
>>> NABS
>>> meeting, I represented New Jersey.
>>> So that's pretty much Daniel Romero. IF you want to know more,
>>> you
>>> know where to contact me. Take care guys!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel C Romero
>>> Paterson New Jersey
>>> MSN messenger/E-mail:
>>> djdan567 at gmail.com
>>> Aim: RadioDJ246
>>> Skype: radiodj246
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/djdan567
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel C Romero
>> Paterson New Jersey
>>
>> Cell Phone: 973-955-6955
>> Studio/Office: 973-707-6844
>> MSN messenger/E-mail:
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Message: 27
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:33:25 -0800
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "NABS-L" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [nabs-l] Getting People's Email Addresses
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Message: 28
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:20:20 -0500
From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
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its in my email I think. bookwormahb at earthlink.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hatgelakas
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:06 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
what is your email address Ashley?
----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
> What's your email adress? RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:00 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Urgently Needing Latest Version Of Text Pal
>
>
>> Hello,
>> Sorry about going a little off topic here, but I had this program on
>> my computer, and was using it to convert PDF files into text ones. I
>> uninstalled it because the instalation was corrupt. I thought I could
>> find the program again, but apparently the page is no longer there. I
>> really need this program because my professor sends his notes in PDF
>> format, so if anyone has it and can help me to locate it, contact me
>> off-list. I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance for
>> any assistance in resolving this issue. Ashley
>>
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Message: 29
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:28:33 -0500
From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
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Brian,
Can you email me off list and discuss the carroll center?
What program did you go to and what did you learn? I have thought about
attending the program.
Like you iI want to be eased into the skills and do not want to be in an
apartment from day one. However I know at the end of your program, you
are
in the training apartment briefly.
Sounds like you liked the training. I know its not like the nfb centers,
but
I think if you get the skills you need/want that is what matters. I also
would like Carroll more because you do not have to use sleepshades.
That is something I'm very uncomfortable with.
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hatgelakas
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:51 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
Daniel,
For blindness skills training I'd recommend the Carroll Center For the
Blind in Newton Mass. You get more one on one training and they don't
force you in an apartment from day one! Easing ones self into something
like that is the best thing. It was what I needed!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Romero" <djdan567 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
> Very good. I'm constantly tweeting, so that's a great way to keep in
> touch! What did you play?
>
> On 2/7/11, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi, Daniel. My name is Beth. Welcome to NABS. I'm a musician bby
>> blood trade, but I have since switched to social work. I'm going to
>> graduate soon from the Colorado center for the Blind. Thank Goodness
>> you have Twitter. Me too. You could never guess, but m Twitter name
>> is denverqueen0920. My Skype is jazzychic2. My AIM iss the same as
>> my twitter. Beth
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Daniel Romero <djdan567 at gmail.com
>> To: Nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 08:26:26 -0500
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
>>
>> Hey all! I'm Daniel Romero, a blind musician, music producer, and
>> singer from New Jersey. i am an active member in the NJABS (New
>> Jersey Association of Blind Students) and also heavily active in a
>> highschool
>> program in NJ called LEAD.
>> I ment to subscribe to this list a long time ago. Also, seeing
>> how
>> involved all students were in Washington last week, I thought it
>> would
>> be a great idea to join the list and interact with fello students
>> around the country. For those who were their in Washing, at the
>> NABS
>> meeting, I represented New Jersey.
>> So that's pretty much Daniel Romero. IF you want to know more,
>> you
>> know where to contact me. Take care guys!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel C Romero
>> Paterson New Jersey
>> MSN messenger/E-mail:
>> djdan567 at gmail.com
>> Aim: RadioDJ246
>> Skype: radiodj246
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/djdan567
>>
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> --
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> Paterson New Jersey
>
> Cell Phone: 973-955-6955
> Studio/Office: 973-707-6844
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Message: 30
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:39:52 -0600
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Obtaining electronic text
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Joshua, when you compare RFB&D and NLS readers you are comparing
apples and oranges. NLS readers, almost exclusively are paid
professionals, actors, radio and TV people, etc. RFB&D readers are
volunteers, who by and large don't do badly.
Dave
At 02:26 PM 2/6/2011, you wrote:
>I don't know who posted about the RFBD books. I found it funny that the
>narrators keep tripping up on words. Even in my history and Geography
>books, they have so many "ums," and "urs," that it's laughable. They
>need better readers. The Library of Congress narrators weren't that
>bad. Blessings, Joshua
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Message: 31
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:48:36 -0600
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Obtaining electronic text
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I know the RFBND readers are volunteers. I appreciate all that they do,
but the last 5 or 6 recordings of textbooks haven't been their best.
They used to be better. The best book they recorded was my Freshman
English 1 book. I still believe that Braille is the answer. I'm probably
the only conservative NFB member on this list. I joined the NFB last
year, but I'm old school when it comes to Braille, and I always will be.
It's Braille or nothing at all! It bothers me that most blind people
that have just lost their sight in the past 8 to 15 years don't know
Braille. That's in Arkansas. They won't take classes at the Arkansas
School for the Blind, or Lions World Services for the Blind, they'd
rather have computers read everything to them. I like Jaws, and all of
these computer programs, but Braille literacy should come first. Maybe,
I should join NAPUB, as well. Blessings, Joshua
On 2/7/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> Joshua, when you compare RFB&D and NLS readers you are comparing
> apples and oranges. NLS readers, almost exclusively are paid
> professionals, actors, radio and TV people, etc. RFB&D readers are
> volunteers, who by and large don't do badly.
>
> Dave
>
> At 02:26 PM 2/6/2011, you wrote:
>>I don't know who posted about the RFBD books. I found it funny that
>>the narrators keep tripping up on words. Even in my history and
>>Geography books, they have so many "ums," and "urs," that it's
>>laughable. They need better readers. The Library of Congress narrators
>>weren't that bad. Blessings, Joshua
>
>
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Message: 32
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:57:32 -0500
From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Obtaining electronic text
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Hi Joshua,
No braille isn't the answer in college; college texts change every few
years. A braille book is probably fifty volumes considering print text
is
small and the average text book is 400 pages.
Who would pay for the transcription of these braille books? It would
literally be thousands per book!
I want electronic books in a timely manner. As to RFB they're not bad
in my
opinion; yes a few history books they stumbled over words but any reader
would with foreign words, like names of Greek gods or kings. Most books
are
fine and pretty impressive; they are volunteers.
Next, NLS readers are paid and professional; they may have had a
background
in tv or radio. That is not a fair comparison.
I couldn't have done college without RFB; they are a life saver. I
still
turn to them for books as a life long learner.
I do agree braille should be learned though as a foundation for literacy
and
adults losing vision should learn braille.
But its not the answer for college unless you're studying math or
foreign
languages.
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:48 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Obtaining electronic text
I know the RFBND readers are volunteers. I appreciate all that they do,
but the last 5 or 6 recordings of textbooks haven't been their best.
They used to be better. The best book they recorded was my Freshman
English 1 book. I still believe that Braille is the answer. I'm probably
the only conservative NFB member on this list. I joined the NFB last
year, but I'm old school when it comes to Braille, and I always will be.
It's Braille or nothing at all! It bothers me that most blind people
that have just lost their sight in the past 8 to 15 years don't know
Braille. That's in Arkansas. They won't take classes at the Arkansas
School for the Blind, or Lions World Services for the Blind, they'd
rather have computers read everything to them. I like Jaws, and all of
these computer programs, but Braille literacy should come first. Maybe,
I should join NAPUB, as well. Blessings, Joshua
On 2/7/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> Joshua, when you compare RFB&D and NLS readers you are comparing
> apples and oranges. NLS readers, almost exclusively are paid
> professionals, actors, radio and TV people, etc. RFB&D readers are
> volunteers, who by and large don't do badly.
>
> Dave
>
> At 02:26 PM 2/6/2011, you wrote:
>>I don't know who posted about the RFBD books. I found it funny that
>>the narrators keep tripping up on words. Even in my history and
>>Geography books, they have so many "ums," and "urs," that it's
>>laughable. They need better readers. The Library of Congress narrators
>>weren't that bad. Blessings, Joshua
>
>
>
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Message: 33
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:04:17 -0600
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Obtaining electronic text
Message-ID:
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www.bookshare.org. I can't stress this enough! The publishers should
send their materials to Bookshare. I'm having trouble with computer
programs to. I'll start another thread about Aplia, (the online workbook
for my Business Communications class.) I'd like to be able to read it on
a refreshable Braille display. Blessings, Joshua
On 2/7/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi Joshua,
> No braille isn't the answer in college; college texts change every few
> years. A braille book is probably fifty volumes considering print text
> is small and the average text book is 400 pages. Who would pay for the
> transcription of these braille books? It would literally be thousands
> per book!
>
> I want electronic books in a timely manner. As to RFB they're not bad
> in my opinion; yes a few history books they stumbled over words but
> any reader would with foreign words, like names of Greek gods or
> kings. Most books are fine and pretty impressive; they are
> volunteers. Next, NLS readers are paid and professional; they may have
> had a background in tv or radio. That is not a fair comparison. I
> couldn't have done college without RFB; they are a life saver. I
> still turn to them for books as a life long learner.
>
> I do agree braille should be learned though as a foundation for
> literacy and adults losing vision should learn braille. But its not
> the answer for college unless you're studying math or foreign
> languages.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:48 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Obtaining electronic text
>
> I know the RFBND readers are volunteers. I appreciate all that they
> do, but the last 5 or 6 recordings of textbooks haven't been their
> best. They used to be better. The best book they recorded was my
> Freshman English 1 book. I still believe that Braille is the answer.
> I'm probably the only conservative NFB member on this list. I joined
> the NFB last year, but I'm old school when it comes to Braille, and I
> always will be. It's Braille or nothing at all! It bothers me that
> most blind people that have just lost their sight in the past 8 to 15
> years don't know Braille. That's in Arkansas. They won't take classes
> at the Arkansas School for the Blind, or Lions World Services for the
> Blind, they'd rather have computers read everything to them. I like
> Jaws, and all of these computer programs, but Braille literacy should
> come first. Maybe, I should join NAPUB, as well. Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 2/7/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> Joshua, when you compare RFB&D and NLS readers you are comparing
>> apples and oranges. NLS readers, almost exclusively are paid
>> professionals, actors, radio and TV people, etc. RFB&D readers are
>> volunteers, who by and large don't do badly.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 02:26 PM 2/6/2011, you wrote:
>>>I don't know who posted about the RFBD books. I found it funny that
>>>the narrators keep tripping up on words. Even in my history and
>>>Geography books, they have so many "ums," and "urs," that it's
>>>laughable. They need better readers. The Library of Congress
>>>narrators weren't that bad. Blessings, Joshua
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 34
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:05:04 -0700
From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Obtaining electronic text
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Joshua,
I agree that braill is the foundation and cornerstone for literacy
among blind people...and, sadly, braille needs are not being met in our
schools in a lot of places. Braille is great, it's escential even...but
"braille or nothing at all" seems a bit much to me. Consider a couple
things: 1. Paper braille is cumbersome, roomy, and inconvenient.
Especially for large books. 2. Refreshable braille is great, but it
doesn't solve everything. For one, it's expensive. Also, from my
experience, computer translated braille does not handle things like math
or graphics very well at all. 3. It's really nice and convenient to
have jaws speed read through large books. At least for me, reading
documents with jaws is faster than reading them in braille. I'm a slow
braille reader...I sit somewhere around 120-130 words a minute, and jaws
can read things to me at a consistently faster pace.
That's not to say I don't use braille. One of my textbooks, a logic
book with all sorts of graphics and symbols, is in paper braille. I
still do some of my reading in braille because it's real reading, not
just listening. And braille taught me how to be a better speller. I
use braille some now but, perhaps more importantly, it gave me a huge
boost in my education. So I say braille is necessary, it absolutely
should be taught...but it's not always the most efficient or practical
way to do what needs to be done. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.
But I'm sure glad I learned it, and I hope to improve my braille skills
still.
All the best,
Kirt
On 2/7/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
> I know the RFBND readers are volunteers. I appreciate all that they
> do, but the last 5 or 6 recordings of textbooks haven't been their
> best. They used to be better. The best book they recorded was my
> Freshman English 1 book. I still believe that Braille is the answer.
> I'm probably the only conservative NFB member on this list. I joined
> the NFB last year, but I'm old school when it comes to Braille, and I
> always will be. It's Braille or nothing at all! It bothers me that
> most blind people that have just lost their sight in the past 8 to 15
> years don't know Braille. That's in Arkansas. They won't take classes
> at the Arkansas School for the Blind, or Lions World Services for the
> Blind, they'd rather have computers read everything to them. I like
> Jaws, and all of these computer programs, but Braille literacy should
> come first. Maybe, I should join NAPUB, as well. Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 2/7/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> Joshua, when you compare RFB&D and NLS readers you are comparing
>> apples and oranges. NLS readers, almost exclusively are paid
>> professionals, actors, radio and TV people, etc. RFB&D readers are
>> volunteers, who by and large don't do badly.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 02:26 PM 2/6/2011, you wrote:
>>>I don't know who posted about the RFBD books. I found it funny that
>>>the narrators keep tripping up on words. Even in my history and
>>>Geography books, they have so many "ums," and "urs," that it's
>>>laughable. They need better readers. The Library of Congress
>>>narrators weren't that bad. Blessings, Joshua
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 35
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:13:51 -0500
From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Obtaining electronic text
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Kirt, I agree with you. Braille is declining which is bad since it?s
the
foundation of literacy and you learn spelling and punctuation that way.
But its not always the practical and efficient way to learn and manage
lots
of reading, hundreds of pages.
I use braille regularly; it has its place like for notetaking. But we
need other forms of access too.
I can't get a book in electronic format this semster and am using a
reader;
additionally one book was a zipped file and it looked like junk so I
need to
download it again once I get another link for the book.
I wish the dss could just send me CDs and it would be much easier to
read
that way. If I get the book link again, I hope I can download it right
this
time.
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Kirt Manwaring
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:05 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Obtaining electronic text
Joshua,
I agree that braill is the foundation and cornerstone for literacy
among blind people...and, sadly, braille needs are not being met in our
schools in a lot of places. Braille is great, it's escential even...but
"braille or nothing at all" seems a bit much to me. Consider a couple
things: 1. Paper braille is cumbersome, roomy, and inconvenient.
Especially for large books. 2. Refreshable braille is great, but it
doesn't solve everything. For one, it's expensive. Also, from my
experience, computer translated braille does not handle things like math
or graphics very well at all. 3. It's really nice and convenient to
have jaws speed read through large books. At least for me, reading
documents with jaws is faster than reading them in braille. I'm a slow
braille reader...I sit somewhere around 120-130 words a minute, and jaws
can read things to me at a consistently faster pace.
That's not to say I don't use braille. One of my textbooks, a logic
book with all sorts of graphics and symbols, is in paper braille. I
still do some of my reading in braille because it's real reading, not
just listening. And braille taught me how to be a better speller. I
use braille some now but, perhaps more importantly, it gave me a huge
boost in my education. So I say braille is necessary, it absolutely
should be taught...but it's not always the most efficient or practical
way to do what needs to be done. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.
But I'm sure glad I learned it, and I hope to improve my braille skills
still.
All the best,
Kirt
On 2/7/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
> I know the RFBND readers are volunteers. I appreciate all that they
> do, but the last 5 or 6 recordings of textbooks haven't been their
> best. They used to be better. The best book they recorded was my
> Freshman English 1 book. I still believe that Braille is the answer.
> I'm probably the only conservative NFB member on this list. I joined
> the NFB last year, but I'm old school when it comes to Braille, and I
> always will be. It's Braille or nothing at all! It bothers me that
> most blind people that have just lost their sight in the past 8 to 15
> years don't know Braille. That's in Arkansas. They won't take classes
> at the Arkansas School for the Blind, or Lions World Services for the
> Blind, they'd rather have computers read everything to them. I like
> Jaws, and all of these computer programs, but Braille literacy should
> come first. Maybe, I should join NAPUB, as well. Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 2/7/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> Joshua, when you compare RFB&D and NLS readers you are comparing
>> apples and oranges. NLS readers, almost exclusively are paid
>> professionals, actors, radio and TV people, etc. RFB&D readers are
>> volunteers, who by and large don't do badly.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 02:26 PM 2/6/2011, you wrote:
>>>I don't know who posted about the RFBD books. I found it funny that
>>>the narrators keep tripping up on words. Even in my history and
>>>Geography books, they have so many "ums," and "urs," that it's
>>>laughable. They need better readers. The Library of Congress
>>>narrators weren't that bad. Blessings, Joshua
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 36
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:42:47 -0800
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "NABS-L" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
Message-ID: <260764C4AB3F4610B7F7F03F4D4B523C at stanford.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Has anyone had their Victor Stream tell them that the SD card was write
protected? Mine is doing that, but I can transfer files to and from it
using the computer. Any idea what is going on?
Thanks,
Nicole
------------------------------
Message: 37
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:58:32 -0600
From: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
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Hi Nicole.
Do you by chance have WMA files on your SD card? I have had that
problem, and I was told that it was because I put WMA files on my card.
There is a reason you are only supposed to only put MP3s on your SD
cards for the Stream. I don't know exactly what it is. I'm sure some
people on this list know much more than I do, but I have a start for
you. I have not had the right protection problem once I stopped putting
WMA files on my stream.
On 2/7/11, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
> Has anyone had their Victor Stream tell them that the SD card was
> write protected? Mine is doing that, but I can transfer files to and
> from it using the computer. Any idea what is going on?
>
> Thanks,
> Nicole
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Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding Eyes
for the Blind
"For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone
who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life." John 3:16
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Message: 38
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:18:59 -0600
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Obtaining electronic text
Message-ID:
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I mentioned Bookshare in my last post. I wouldn't mind the Jaws reading
my textbooks, I just want consistancy, something the audiobooks don't
provide. Blessings, Joshua
On 2/7/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
> Joshua,
> I agree that braill is the foundation and cornerstone for literacy
> among blind people...and, sadly, braille needs are not being met in
> our schools in a lot of places. Braille is great, it's escential
> even...but "braille or nothing at all" seems a bit much to me.
> Consider a couple things: 1. Paper braille is cumbersome, roomy, and
> inconvenient. Especially for large books.
> 2. Refreshable braille is great, but it doesn't solve everything.
> For one, it's expensive. Also, from my experience, computer
> translated braille does not handle things like math or graphics very
> well at all.
> 3. It's really nice and convenient to have jaws speed read through
> large books. At least for me, reading documents with jaws is faster
> than reading them in braille. I'm a slow braille reader...I sit
> somewhere around 120-130 words a minute, and jaws can read things to
> me at a consistently faster pace.
> That's not to say I don't use braille. One of my textbooks, a logic
> book with all sorts of graphics and symbols, is in paper braille. I
> still do some of my reading in braille because it's real reading, not
> just listening. And braille taught me how to be a better speller. I
> use braille some now but, perhaps more importantly, it gave me a huge
> boost in my education. So I say braille is necessary, it absolutely
> should be taught...but it's not always the most efficient or practical
> way to do what needs to be done. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.
> But I'm sure glad I learned it, and I hope to improve my braille
> skills still.
> All the best,
> Kirt
>
>
> On 2/7/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>> I know the RFBND readers are volunteers. I appreciate all that they
>> do, but the last 5 or 6 recordings of textbooks haven't been their
>> best. They used to be better. The best book they recorded was my
>> Freshman English 1 book. I still believe that Braille is the answer.
>> I'm probably the only conservative NFB member on this list. I joined
>> the NFB last year, but I'm old school when it comes to Braille, and I
>> always will be. It's Braille or nothing at all! It bothers me that
>> most blind people that have just lost their sight in the past 8 to 15
>> years don't know Braille. That's in Arkansas. They won't take classes
>> at the Arkansas School for the Blind, or Lions World Services for the
>> Blind, they'd rather have computers read everything to them. I like
>> Jaws, and all of these computer programs, but Braille literacy should
>> come first. Maybe, I should join NAPUB, as well. Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 2/7/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>> Joshua, when you compare RFB&D and NLS readers you are comparing
>>> apples and oranges. NLS readers, almost exclusively are paid
>>> professionals, actors, radio and TV people, etc. RFB&D readers are
>>> volunteers, who by and large don't do badly.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 02:26 PM 2/6/2011, you wrote:
>>>>I don't know who posted about the RFBD books. I found it funny that
>>>>the narrators keep tripping up on words. Even in my history and
>>>>Geography books, they have so many "ums," and "urs," that it's
>>>>laughable. They need better readers. The Library of Congress
>>>>narrators weren't that bad. Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 39
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:53:01 -0800
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
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I don't think that that is the problem. I reformatted the card, and
still no
avail.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Julie McGinnity" <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
> Hi Nicole.
>
> Do you by chance have WMA files on your SD card? I have had that
> problem, and I was told that it was because I put WMA files on my
> card. There is a reason you are only supposed to only put MP3s on
> your SD cards for the Stream. I don't know exactly what it is. I'm
> sure some people on this list know much more than I do, but I have a
> start for you. I have not had the right protection problem once I
> stopped putting WMA files on my stream.
>
> On 2/7/11, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> wrote:
>> Has anyone had their Victor Stream tell them that the SD card was
>> write protected? Mine is doing that, but I can transfer files to and
>> from it using the computer. Any idea what is going on?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nicole
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
> Julie McG
> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
> Eyes for the Blind
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
> life." John 3:16
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Message: 40
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:32:28 -0600
From: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
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Hmmmmm. I have no idea then. Is that the only card with the problem?
Maybe it's just that card.
On 2/7/11, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
> I don't think that that is the problem. I reformatted the card, and
> still no avail.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie McGinnity" <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
>
>
>> Hi Nicole.
>>
>> Do you by chance have WMA files on your SD card? I have had that
>> problem, and I was told that it was because I put WMA files on my
>> card. There is a reason you are only supposed to only put MP3s on
>> your SD cards for the Stream. I don't know exactly what it is. I'm
>> sure some people on this list know much more than I do, but I have a
>> start for you. I have not had the right protection problem once I
>> stopped putting WMA files on my stream.
>>
>> On 2/7/11, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Has anyone had their Victor Stream tell them that the SD card was
>>> write protected? Mine is doing that, but I can transfer files to and
>>> from it using the computer. Any idea what is going on?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nicole
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Julie McG
>> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
>> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
>> Eyes for the Blind
>>
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>> life." John 3:16
>>
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Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding Eyes
for the Blind
"For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone
who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life." John 3:16
------------------------------
Message: 41
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:42:59 -0500
From: Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
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Is it possible to format the SD card from the Stream itself? We had a
problem like that with my girlfriends camera, and reformatting the card
from the computer didn't fix it. When we did it from the camera, it
started working again. On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:42 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini
at Home wrote:
> Has anyone had their Victor Stream tell them that the SD card was
> write protected? Mine is doing that, but I can transfer files to and
> from it using the computer. Any idea what is going on?
>
> Thanks,
> Nicole
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Message: 42
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:48:24 -0800
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
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Not sure, but I will look it up.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ignasi Cambra" <ignasicambra at gmail.com>
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> Is it possible to format the SD card from the Stream itself? We had a
> problem like that with my girlfriends camera, and reformatting the
card
> from the computer didn't fix it. When we did it from the camera, it
> started working again.
> On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:42 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>
>> Has anyone had their Victor Stream tell them that the SD card was
>> write
>> protected? Mine is doing that, but I can transfer files to and from
it
>> using the computer. Any idea what is going on?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nicole
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Message: 43
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:51:22 -0500
From: Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] technology on your campus
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At Indiana University they have a Jaws license installed on the network
on campus. That basically means that up to five people can use JAWS at
the same time on any of the computers on campus. I usually try to just
use one of the macs because that's what I use all the time, but the JAWS
option is there and sometimes I do use it if there isn't a mac nearby.
On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
> On 2/7/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I?m meeting with an ADA coordinator for nova, the community college.
>> Jaws is very out of date and they do not provide enough technology on
>> campus. What technology does your school provide, high tech and low
>> tech, for you? Please say what school you attend. I?m collecting this
>> information to present to th4e coordinator so she knows what other
>> campuses provide. Thanks.
>> Sincerely,
>> Ashley
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Message: 44
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:53:26 -0500
From: Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] duel booting - JAWS/W7 on a Mac
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Just get it from Bittorrent or something. As long as you have a valid
license you shouldn't have any issues activating Windows. Just make sure
to download the exact version of the OS that your license is for. On Feb
7, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Jorge Paez wrote:
> OK Thanks guys.
>
> Anywhere I can download a demo version of Windows?
>
> I already have license,
> but don't have the CD it came with.
>
> Anywhere I could download and license the download?
> Thanks,
>
> Jorge
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:
>
>> yes.
>> On Feb 7, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Jorge Paez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys:
>>> I'm going to have to duel-boot my Mac for school,
>>> because I'm going to be using Windows and Microsoft Office.
>>>
>>> So my question is this.
>>>
>>> Does anyone here know weather Bootcamp is accessible?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jorge
>>>
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>> Maurice Mines
>> minesm at me.com
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>>
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Message: 45
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:55:36 -0800
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
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Nope, no cigar. I get the same message when I try to use the Stream to
format it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ignasi Cambra" <ignasicambra at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
> Is it possible to format the SD card from the Stream itself? We had a
> problem like that with my girlfriends camera, and reformatting the
card
> from the computer didn't fix it. When we did it from the camera, it
> started working again.
> On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:42 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>
>> Has anyone had their Victor Stream tell them that the SD card was
>> write
>> protected? Mine is doing that, but I can transfer files to and from
it
>> using the computer. Any idea what is going on?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nicole
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Message: 46
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:57:25 -0500
From: Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] duel booting - JAWS/W7 on a Mac
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Bootcamp itself is accessible, but installing Windows isn't. In other
words, you will be able to create the Windows partition, but performing
the actual installation is a little trickier. If you really need to do
this independently, you can perform an automated installation. This is
relatively complicated because you will need to create a modified copy
of the Windows install CD, which will have to include a few extra files.
Editing the automated install file is not all that simple on Windows 7.
Just look these things up on google, and make sure you know what you're
doing because if not you can end up messing up your OS X installation.
On Feb 7, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Jorge Paez wrote:
> Hi guys:
> I'm going to have to duel-boot my Mac for school,
> because I'm going to be using Windows and Microsoft Office.
>
> So my question is this.
>
> Does anyone here know weather Bootcamp is accessible?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jorge
>
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Message: 47
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:58:46 -0500
From: Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
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Hmmm... Have you tried moving the little switch on the card? I know it
works on the computer, but maybe if you move it a little bit... This is
kind of strange anyways! On Feb 8, 2011, at 1:55 AM, Nicole B. Torcolini
at Home wrote:
> Nope, no cigar. I get the same message when I try to use the Stream to
> format it.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ignasi Cambra"
> <ignasicambra at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
>
>
>> Is it possible to format the SD card from the Stream itself? We had a
>> problem like that with my girlfriends camera, and reformatting the
>> card from the computer didn't fix it. When we did it from the camera,
>> it started working again. On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:42 PM, Nicole B.
>> Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone had their Victor Stream tell them that the SD card was
>>> write protected? Mine is doing that, but I can transfer files to and
>>> from it using the computer. Any idea what is going on?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nicole
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Message: 48
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:15:10 -0800
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
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Yes, the switch was the problem. I must have bumped it somehow because I
have never moved it before. I actually did not know where it was.
Luckily,
the resident computing consultant (or at least that is what I think that
RCC
stands for, there are too many acronyms) was able to help me. At
Stanford,
every dorm has a student or two students that help with computer stuff.
Nicole
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ignasi Cambra" <ignasicambra at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
> Hmmm... Have you tried moving the little switch on the card? I know it
> works on the computer, but maybe if you move it a little bit... This
is
> kind of strange anyways!
> On Feb 8, 2011, at 1:55 AM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>
>> Nope, no cigar. I get the same message when I try to use the Stream
>> to
>> format it.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ignasi Cambra"
>> <ignasicambra at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
>>
>>
>>> Is it possible to format the SD card from the Stream itself? We had
>>> a
>>> problem like that with my girlfriends camera, and reformatting the
card
>>> from the computer didn't fix it. When we did it from the camera, it
>>> started working again.
>>> On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:42 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anyone had their Victor Stream tell them that the SD card was
>>>> write
>>>> protected? Mine is doing that, but I can transfer files to and from
it
>>>> using the computer. Any idea what is going on?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Nicole
>>>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 49
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 06:17:31 -0500
From: Mary Fernandez <trillian551 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
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Hi Nicole,
Did you check that the card isn't locked? There's a little button on
the left side if you have the ridges facing down and away from you. That
should be slid up towards you, ot down away from you.
Hope that helps.
M
On 2/8/11, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
> Yes, the switch was the problem. I must have bumped it somehow because
> I have never moved it before. I actually did not know where it was.
> Luckily, the resident computing consultant (or at least that is what I
> think that RCC stands for, there are too many acronyms) was able to
> help me. At Stanford, every dorm has a student or two students that
> help with computer stuff.
>
> Nicole
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ignasi Cambra" <ignasicambra at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
>
>
>> Hmmm... Have you tried moving the little switch on the card? I know
>> it works on the computer, but maybe if you move it a little bit...
>> This is kind of strange anyways! On Feb 8, 2011, at 1:55 AM, Nicole
>> B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>
>>> Nope, no cigar. I get the same message when I try to use the Stream
>>> to format it.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ignasi Cambra"
>>> <ignasicambra at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Victor Stream Question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is it possible to format the SD card from the Stream itself? We had
>>>> a problem like that with my girlfriends camera, and reformatting
>>>> the card from the computer didn't fix it. When we did it from the
>>>> camera, it started working again. On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:42 PM,
>>>> Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone had their Victor Stream tell them that the SD card was
>>>>> write
>>>>>
>>>>> protected? Mine is doing that, but I can transfer files to and
>>>>> from it using the computer. Any idea what is going on?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Nicole
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 50
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 06:27:45 -0500
From: "Brian Hatgelakas" <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
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Ashley could I have your email address? Also you can feel free and call
me
on my cell phone at 412-862-8644. I'd love to discuss The Carroll
Center
more in-depth with you. Can I have your number as well?
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
> Brian,
> Can you email me off list and discuss the carroll center? What program
> did you go to and what did you learn? I have thought about attending
> the program. Like you iI want to be eased into the skills and do not
> want to be in an apartment from day one. However I know at the end of
> your program, you are in the training apartment briefly.
> Sounds like you liked the training. I know its not like the nfb
centers,
> but I think if you get the skills you need/want that is what matters.
> I also would like Carroll more because you do not have to use
sleepshades.
> That is something I'm very uncomfortable with.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Hatgelakas
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:51 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
>
> Daniel,
>
> For blindness skills training I'd recommend the Carroll Center For the
> Blind
> in Newton Mass. You get more one on one training and they don't force
you
> in an apartment from day one! Easing ones self into something like
that
> is
> the best thing. It was what I needed!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Romero" <djdan567 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
>
>
>> Very good. I'm constantly tweeting, so that's a great way to keep in
>> touch! What did you play?
>>
>> On 2/7/11, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi, Daniel. My name is Beth. Welcome to NABS. I'm a musician bby
>>> blood trade, but I have since switched to social work. I'm going to
>>> graduate soon from the Colorado center for the Blind. Thank Goodness
>>> you have Twitter. Me too. You could never guess, but m Twitter
>>> name is denverqueen0920. My Skype is jazzychic2. My AIM iss the
>>> same as my twitter. Beth
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Daniel Romero <djdan567 at gmail.com
>>> To: Nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 08:26:26 -0500
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
>>>
>>> Hey all! I'm Daniel Romero, a blind musician, music producer, and
>>> singer from New Jersey. i am an active member in the NJABS (New
>>> Jersey Association of Blind Students) and also heavily active in a
>>> highschool
>>> program in NJ called LEAD.
>>> I ment to subscribe to this list a long time ago. Also, seeing
>>> how
>>> involved all students were in Washington last week, I thought it
>>> would
>>> be a great idea to join the list and interact with fello students
>>> around the country. For those who were their in Washing, at the
>>> NABS
>>> meeting, I represented New Jersey.
>>> So that's pretty much Daniel Romero. IF you want to know more,
>>> you
>>> know where to contact me. Take care guys!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel C Romero
>>> Paterson New Jersey
>>> MSN messenger/E-mail:
>>> djdan567 at gmail.com
>>> Aim: RadioDJ246
>>> Skype: radiodj246
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/djdan567
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Message: 51
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 08:29:09 -0500
From: Daniel Romero <djdan567 at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
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Blind INC< is another NFB training center, and I'm sorryu, I don't think
i can do MN. If I were ever to go to a center, CCB is my definite first
choice. Not only because of the diversity, but because of the different
climates i'd be able to walk too. But thanks for the recommendation in
MA> I wouldn't take a chance since I know nothing about the center.
On 2/7/11, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net> wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> For blindness skills training I'd recommend the Carroll Center For the
> Blind in Newton Mass. You get more one on one training and they don't
> force you in an apartment from day one! Easing ones self into
> something like that is the best thing. It was what I needed!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Romero" <djdan567 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
>
>
>> Very good. I'm constantly tweeting, so that's a great way to keep in
>> touch! What did you play?
>>
>> On 2/7/11, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi, Daniel. My name is Beth. Welcome to NABS. I'm a musician bby
>>> blood trade, but I have since switched to social work. I'm going to
>>> graduate soon from the Colorado center for the Blind. Thank Goodness
>>> you have Twitter. Me too. You could never guess, but m Twitter
>>> name is denverqueen0920. My Skype is jazzychic2. My AIM iss the
>>> same as my twitter. Beth
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Daniel Romero <djdan567 at gmail.com
>>> To: Nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 08:26:26 -0500
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
>>>
>>> Hey all! I'm Daniel Romero, a blind musician, music producer, and
>>> singer from New Jersey. i am an active member in the NJABS (New
>>> Jersey Association of Blind Students) and also heavily active in a
>>> highschool
>>> program in NJ called LEAD.
>>> I ment to subscribe to this list a long time ago. Also, seeing
>>> how
>>> involved all students were in Washington last week, I thought it
>>> would
>>> be a great idea to join the list and interact with fello students
>>> around the country. For those who were their in Washing, at the
>>> NABS
>>> meeting, I represented New Jersey.
>>> So that's pretty much Daniel Romero. IF you want to know more,
>>> you
>>> know where to contact me. Take care guys!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel C Romero
>>> Paterson New Jersey
>>> MSN messenger/E-mail:
>>> djdan567 at gmail.com
>>> Aim: RadioDJ246
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>>
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Message: 52
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 09:04:31 -0500
From: "Brian Hatgelakas" <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
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Why do they push you into an apartment from day one at CCB? That's not
the
way to teach blindness skills. Plus CCB takes an entire year while the
Carroll Center takes only 16 weeks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Romero" <djdan567 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
> Blind INC< is another NFB training center, and I'm sorryu, I don't
> think i can do MN. If I were ever to go to a center, CCB is my
> definite first choice. Not only because of the diversity, but because
> of the different climates i'd be able to walk too. But thanks for the
> recommendation in MA> I wouldn't take a chance since I know nothing
> about the center.
>
> On 2/7/11, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Daniel,
>>
>> For blindness skills training I'd recommend the Carroll Center For
>> the
>> Blind
>> in Newton Mass. You get more one on one training and they don't
force
>> you
>> in an apartment from day one! Easing ones self into something like
that
>> is
>> the best thing. It was what I needed!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Daniel Romero" <djdan567 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
>>
>>
>>> Very good. I'm constantly tweeting, so that's a great way to keep in
>>> touch! What did you play?
>>>
>>> On 2/7/11, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi, Daniel. My name is Beth. Welcome to NABS. I'm a musician bby
>>>> blood trade, but I have since switched to social work. I'm going
>>>> to graduate soon from the Colorado center for the Blind. Thank
>>>> Goodness you have Twitter. Me too. You could never guess, but m
>>>> Twitter name is denverqueen0920. My Skype is jazzychic2. My AIM
>>>> iss the same as my twitter. Beth
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Daniel Romero <djdan567 at gmail.com
>>>> To: Nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 08:26:26 -0500
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
>>>>
>>>> Hey all! I'm Daniel Romero, a blind musician, music producer, and
>>>> singer from New Jersey. i am an active member in the NJABS (New
>>>> Jersey Association of Blind Students) and also heavily active in a
>>>> highschool
>>>> program in NJ called LEAD.
>>>> I ment to subscribe to this list a long time ago. Also, seeing
>>>> how
>>>> involved all students were in Washington last week, I thought it
>>>> would
>>>> be a great idea to join the list and interact with fello students
>>>> around the country. For those who were their in Washing, at the
>>>> NABS
>>>> meeting, I represented New Jersey.
>>>> So that's pretty much Daniel Romero. IF you want to know more,
>>>> you
>>>> know where to contact me. Take care guys!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Daniel C Romero
>>>> Paterson New Jersey
>>>> MSN messenger/E-mail:
>>>> djdan567 at gmail.com
>>>> Aim: RadioDJ246
>>>> Skype: radiodj246
>>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/djdan567
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel C Romero
>>> Paterson New Jersey
>>>
>>> Cell Phone: 973-955-6955
>>> Studio/Office: 973-707-6844
>>> MSN messenger/E-mail:
>>> djdan567 at gmail.com
>>> Aim: RadioDJ246
>>> Skype: radiodj246
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/djdan567
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> Paterson New Jersey
>
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> Studio/Office: 973-707-6844
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Message: 53
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:37:33 -0500
From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
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Brian,
It?s a different way of teaching at nfb centers; they want you to
experience
independent living from day one Many people like it and experimenting.
I
agree with you. Its not right for everyone; some of us want to learn
the
skills like cooking/shopping before entering an apartment.
Actually Brian, CCB and other nfb centers take 6-9 months. Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hatgelakas
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:04 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
Why do they push you into an apartment from day one at CCB? That's not
the way to teach blindness skills. Plus CCB takes an entire year while
the Carroll Center takes only 16 weeks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Romero" <djdan567 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
> Blind INC< is another NFB training center, and I'm sorryu, I don't
> think i can do MN. If I were ever to go to a center, CCB is my
> definite first choice. Not only because of the diversity, but because
> of the different climates i'd be able to walk too. But thanks for the
> recommendation in MA> I wouldn't take a chance since I know nothing
> about the center.
>
> On 2/7/11, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Daniel,
>>
>> For blindness skills training I'd recommend the Carroll Center For
>> the
>> Blind
>> in Newton Mass. You get more one on one training and they don't
force
>> you
>> in an apartment from day one! Easing ones self into something like
that
>> is
>> the best thing. It was what I needed!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Daniel Romero" <djdan567 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
>>
>>
>>> Very good. I'm constantly tweeting, so that's a great way to keep in
>>> touch! What did you play?
>>>
>>> On 2/7/11, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi, Daniel. My name is Beth. Welcome to NABS. I'm a musician bby
>>>> blood trade, but I have since switched to social work. I'm going
>>>> to graduate soon from the Colorado center for the Blind. Thank
>>>> Goodness you have Twitter. Me too. You could never guess, but m
>>>> Twitter name is denverqueen0920. My Skype is jazzychic2. My AIM
>>>> iss the same as my twitter. Beth
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Daniel Romero <djdan567 at gmail.com
>>>> To: Nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 08:26:26 -0500
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Daniel ROmero -- Introduction
>>>>
>>>> Hey all! I'm Daniel Romero, a blind musician, music producer, and
>>>> singer from New Jersey. i am an active member in the NJABS (New
>>>> Jersey Association of Blind Students) and also heavily active in a
>>>> highschool
>>>> program in NJ called LEAD.
>>>> I ment to subscribe to this list a long time ago. Also, seeing
>>>> how
>>>> involved all students were in Washington last week, I thought it
>>>> would
>>>> be a great idea to join the list and interact with fello students
>>>> around the country. For those who were their in Washing, at the
>>>> NABS
>>>> meeting, I represented New Jersey.
>>>> So that's pretty much Daniel Romero. IF you want to know more,
>>>> you
>>>> know where to contact me. Take care guys!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Daniel C Romero
>>>> Paterson New Jersey
>>>> MSN messenger/E-mail:
>>>> djdan567 at gmail.com
>>>> Aim: RadioDJ246
>>>> Skype: radiodj246
>>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/djdan567
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel C Romero
>>> Paterson New Jersey
>>>
>>> Cell Phone: 973-955-6955
>>> Studio/Office: 973-707-6844
>>> MSN messenger/E-mail:
>>> djdan567 at gmail.com
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> Paterson New Jersey
>
> Cell Phone: 973-955-6955
> Studio/Office: 973-707-6844
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