[nabs-l] lions world

Sat Feb 12 02:46:54 UTC 2011

Brian,
Because some centers treat adults like children.
Adults at centers may not have the skills to live, but they are still adults 
who can think and make decissions, and need to be treated as such.
I know nurses are at the carroll center.  But I don't  know what role they 
play.
Do they administer meds to everyone, or just those who can't handle it yet 
themselves?

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Brian Hatgelakas
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:00 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world

Why did Lyons World have a curfew and make everyone relinquish medications?
That is dumbing really independent blind adults down to babys in my opinion!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world

> lolololol! The food is horible! It's always warm in the dorm rooms.
> Yes, there's a curfue. Everyone has to relinquish their meds. The
> piano in the salarium, (I'm a musician,) is out of tune. I hate old,
> out-of-tune pianos! Someone kept breaking the rules. He smoked in his
> dorm room. I didn't have a choice on whether I wanted a room mate or
> not. I couldn't stand him, because he was always bragging about how
> much alcohol he could consume. I went for an evaluation, in 2007. I
> haven't attended a training center. I've received the mobility skills
> in school, and received my endependent living skills at LWSB. I only
> stayed 4 weeks. That's hw long an evaluation lasts. I made some
> friends, but some of them, (including my room mate,) were nothing but
> trouble. There are other places where he can get training without
> going to that place. O yeah, and too many of the trainees, allowed
> their guide dogs to run loose. I'm allergic to dogs.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Joshua,
>> I told Josh that on the other nabs list, the one belonging to ACB; I told
>> him to think through it, think about the rules and if he'd like to abide 
>> by
>> such restrictions.  It didn't work.
>> Josh has already been to a nfb center; now he wants to get a 
>> certification;
>> so perhaps he's willing to stay confined at LWSB to get that training.
>>
>> Joshua, what program did you attend and did you go to another training
>> center afterward?
>>
>> But do they really have a lights out rule?  Do they really have a curphew
>> where you got to be in your room?
>> I know they got dorms and roommates. They don't have apartments.  Someone
>> told me from Nabs ACB list that the food was not too good; it was mostly
>> fried food which is very unhealthy.
>> As to nurses, I can understand that if a blind person cannot identify 
>> their
>> meds; I mean some newly blind people cannot read braille or print and 
>> cannot
>> know what meds they have in what bottle!
>> But some blind people have the skills already to take their meds.
>> However, is this an individual thing?  Does everyone have to relinquish
>> their meds, or just the ones who cannot take it independently yet?
>>
>> On their website it says you have to agree to relocate after the program.
>> That sounds terrible for the reasons you stated. If you don't have 
>> friends
>> or family down in say Georga, then why move there?
>> Maybe so LWSB doesn't hear from you again.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:04 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>
>> In Little Rock, Arkansas? I attended there for 4 weeks. That is one of
>> those centers like the one Tara was talking about. They have "lights
>> out," "nurses controling meds," etc. I know, because I was there. They
>> thought that every blind person needed counseling. They called it
>> assertiveness training. The whole thing is a scam! They ship you off
>> to another state once you've graduated. Let's say, your home state is
>> Arkansas, (because that's mine.) You go through the IRS program, (for
>> example.) Once you've graduated, (since there are no jobs for you in
>> that field, they'll ship you to Georgia, Florida, Alabama, or
>> somewhere else, without your consent. I want to stay in Arkansas. All
>> of my family is here. You think I'm going to a state where I don't
>> know anyone from Adam? Nope! That's all LWSB is good for. Stay away!
>> Go to LCB, if you want that kind of training, but stay away from LWSB!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 2/11/11, Josh Kennedy <jkenn337 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I want to let you guys know that I will be going to lions world within
>>> the next 5 or so months. I will be going for desktop support technician
>>> and then microsoft certified systems engineer program.
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
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