[nabs-l] lions world

Sat Feb 12 14:56:34 UTC 2011

They administer meds to those that can't handle medicin administration yet. 
As an adult even if I didn't have the skills to live on my own yet and I was 
at a center I'd rather be in jail than treated like a minor under 18!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world


> Brian,
> Because some centers treat adults like children.
> Adults at centers may not have the skills to live, but they are still 
> adults who can think and make decissions, and need to be treated as such.
> I know nurses are at the carroll center.  But I don't  know what role they 
> play.
> Do they administer meds to everyone, or just those who can't handle it yet 
> themselves?
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Brian Hatgelakas
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:00 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>
> Why did Lyons World have a curfew and make everyone relinquish 
> medications?
> That is dumbing really independent blind adults down to babys in my 
> opinion!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>
>
>> lolololol! The food is horible! It's always warm in the dorm rooms.
>> Yes, there's a curfue. Everyone has to relinquish their meds. The
>> piano in the salarium, (I'm a musician,) is out of tune. I hate old,
>> out-of-tune pianos! Someone kept breaking the rules. He smoked in his
>> dorm room. I didn't have a choice on whether I wanted a room mate or
>> not. I couldn't stand him, because he was always bragging about how
>> much alcohol he could consume. I went for an evaluation, in 2007. I
>> haven't attended a training center. I've received the mobility skills
>> in school, and received my endependent living skills at LWSB. I only
>> stayed 4 weeks. That's hw long an evaluation lasts. I made some
>> friends, but some of them, (including my room mate,) were nothing but
>> trouble. There are other places where he can get training without
>> going to that place. O yeah, and too many of the trainees, allowed
>> their guide dogs to run loose. I'm allergic to dogs.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Joshua,
>>> I told Josh that on the other nabs list, the one belonging to ACB; I 
>>> told
>>> him to think through it, think about the rules and if he'd like to abide 
>>> by
>>> such restrictions.  It didn't work.
>>> Josh has already been to a nfb center; now he wants to get a 
>>> certification;
>>> so perhaps he's willing to stay confined at LWSB to get that training.
>>>
>>> Joshua, what program did you attend and did you go to another training
>>> center afterward?
>>>
>>> But do they really have a lights out rule?  Do they really have a 
>>> curphew
>>> where you got to be in your room?
>>> I know they got dorms and roommates. They don't have apartments. 
>>> Someone
>>> told me from Nabs ACB list that the food was not too good; it was mostly
>>> fried food which is very unhealthy.
>>> As to nurses, I can understand that if a blind person cannot identify 
>>> their
>>> meds; I mean some newly blind people cannot read braille or print and 
>>> cannot
>>> know what meds they have in what bottle!
>>> But some blind people have the skills already to take their meds.
>>> However, is this an individual thing?  Does everyone have to relinquish
>>> their meds, or just the ones who cannot take it independently yet?
>>>
>>> On their website it says you have to agree to relocate after the 
>>> program.
>>> That sounds terrible for the reasons you stated. If you don't have 
>>> friends
>>> or family down in say Georga, then why move there?
>>> Maybe so LWSB doesn't hear from you again.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:04 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>>
>>> In Little Rock, Arkansas? I attended there for 4 weeks. That is one of
>>> those centers like the one Tara was talking about. They have "lights
>>> out," "nurses controling meds," etc. I know, because I was there. They
>>> thought that every blind person needed counseling. They called it
>>> assertiveness training. The whole thing is a scam! They ship you off
>>> to another state once you've graduated. Let's say, your home state is
>>> Arkansas, (because that's mine.) You go through the IRS program, (for
>>> example.) Once you've graduated, (since there are no jobs for you in
>>> that field, they'll ship you to Georgia, Florida, Alabama, or
>>> somewhere else, without your consent. I want to stay in Arkansas. All
>>> of my family is here. You think I'm going to a state where I don't
>>> know anyone from Adam? Nope! That's all LWSB is good for. Stay away!
>>> Go to LCB, if you want that kind of training, but stay away from LWSB!
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 2/11/11, Josh Kennedy <jkenn337 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I want to let you guys know that I will be going to lions world within
>>>> the next 5 or so months. I will be going for desktop support technician
>>>> and then microsoft certified systems engineer program.
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
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