[nabs-l] lions world

Sat Feb 12 03:48:47 UTC 2011

You don't have to attend after the first week. I didn't go to them
after the first week. Whoever your advisor was, the other one was your
"Assertiveness Training"  counselor. The turning over of meds must
have stopped when Anmol went. I think he attended a year or so after I
did. That's when they got a new administrator. Ramona was crazy! They
do have good O and M instructors, though. I liked the one I had. I
just didn't care for the not-so-needed Braille class. I hated the dorm
rooms. It was mid-fall, and they always had it so hot in the rooms, I
couldn't stand it. It was 100 degrees, and the only places with air
conditioning were the cafeterea, the salarium, and the breizway. I
think the classrooms were hot to. They also, (in my list of
improvements,) need to tune that stinking piano in the salarium! I bet
it's still out of tune! Blessings, Joshua

On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Anmol,
> When did you go there? Perhaps the discrepancy in policy and people's
> experiences has to do with the leadership there.
> Joshua Lester said everyone had to turn over meds to a nurse.  You said its
> optional.
> Some centers have a rule where you have to be cleared by an O&M staff
> person. Is this
> the case at LWSB before you can go off campus?
>
> Also acording to the LWSB website, they still have a psychologist and
> psychiatrist on staff.
> Is that the case? If so, do you have to take the counseling class, assertive
> training I think they call it?
>
> Thanks.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anmol Bhatia
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:34 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>
> Josh most of the people who attend LWSB are adults and are treated as such.
> There is good and bad to every training centers even the ones run by NFB. O!
> and I forgot to address one more point that of taking one's meds. The
> trainies have the option to give their meds to a nerse but are not required
> to do so. However, coming to take the meds is totally the trainy's
> responsibility. The nerse will not come and find you to remind you to take
> your medison.
>
> Anmol
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze
> among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
>
>
> --- On Fri, 2/11/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>
>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 6:19 PM
>> Exactly! The majority of the trainees
>> are 5 or more years past
>> "fresh-out-of-high-school" age. I was the only 18-year-old
>> there.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 2/11/11, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>> > They should get with the 21st century this isn't the
>> 40's anymore.  Or if it
>> > is why am I born and what am I doing out hear on this
>> internet thingie?
>> > LOL! just kidding!
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list"
>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:07 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>> >
>> >
>> >>I don't know, but they've done this since their
>> founding in 1946.
>> >> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>
>> >> On 2/11/11, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>> Why did Lyons World have a curfew and make
>> everyone relinquish
>> >>> medications?
>> >>> That is dumbing really independent blind
>> adults down to babys in my
>> >>> opinion!
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >>> To: "National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list"
>> >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:36 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> lolololol! The food is horible! It's
>> always warm in the dorm rooms.
>> >>>> Yes, there's a curfue. Everyone has to
>> relinquish their meds. The
>> >>>> piano in the salarium, (I'm a musician,)
>> is out of tune. I hate old,
>> >>>> out-of-tune pianos! Someone kept breaking
>> the rules. He smoked in his
>> >>>> dorm room. I didn't have a choice on
>> whether I wanted a room mate or
>> >>>> not. I couldn't stand him, because he was
>> always bragging about how
>> >>>> much alcohol he could consume. I went for
>> an evaluation, in 2007. I
>> >>>> haven't attended a training center. I've
>> received the mobility skills
>> >>>> in school, and received my endependent
>> living skills at LWSB. I only
>> >>>> stayed 4 weeks. That's hw long an
>> evaluation lasts. I made some
>> >>>> friends, but some of them, (including my
>> room mate,) were nothing but
>> >>>> trouble. There are other places where he
>> can get training without
>> >>>> going to that place. O yeah, and too many
>> of the trainees, allowed
>> >>>> their guide dogs to run loose. I'm
>> allergic to dogs.
>> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>> Joshua,
>> >>>>> I told Josh that on the other nabs
>> list, the one belonging to ACB; I
>> >>>>> told
>> >>>>> him to think through it, think about
>> the rules and if he'd like to
>> >>>>> abide
>> >>>>> by
>> >>>>> such restrictions.  It didn't
>> work.
>> >>>>> Josh has already been to a nfb center;
>> now he wants to get a
>> >>>>> certification;
>> >>>>> so perhaps he's willing to stay
>> confined at LWSB to get that training.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Joshua, what program did you attend
>> and did you go to another training
>> >>>>> center afterward?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> But do they really have a lights out
>> rule?  Do they really have a
>> >>>>> curphew
>> >>>>> where you got to be in your room?
>> >>>>> I know they got dorms and roommates.
>> They don't have apartments.
>> >>>>> Someone
>> >>>>> told me from Nabs ACB list that the
>> food was not too good; it was
>> >>>>> mostly
>> >>>>> fried food which is very unhealthy.
>> >>>>> As to nurses, I can understand that if
>> a blind person cannot identify
>> >>>>> their
>> >>>>> meds; I mean some newly blind people
>> cannot read braille or print and
>> >>>>> cannot
>> >>>>> know what meds they have in what
>> bottle!
>> >>>>> But some blind people have the skills
>> already to take their meds.
>> >>>>> However, is this an individual
>> thing?  Does everyone have to relinquish
>> >>>>> their meds, or just the ones who
>> cannot take it independently yet?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On their website it says you have to
>> agree to relocate after the
>> >>>>> program.
>> >>>>> That sounds terrible for the reasons
>> you stated. If you don't have
>> >>>>> friends
>> >>>>> or family down in say Georga, then why
>> move there?
>> >>>>> Maybe so LWSB doesn't hear from you
>> again.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Ashley
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:04
>> PM
>> >>>>> To: National Association of Blind
>> Students mailing list
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> In Little Rock, Arkansas? I attended
>> there for 4 weeks. That is one of
>> >>>>> those centers like the one Tara was
>> talking about. They have "lights
>> >>>>> out," "nurses controling meds," etc. I
>> know, because I was there. They
>> >>>>> thought that every blind person needed
>> counseling. They called it
>> >>>>> assertiveness training. The whole
>> thing is a scam! They ship you off
>> >>>>> to another state once you've
>> graduated. Let's say, your home state is
>> >>>>> Arkansas, (because that's mine.) You
>> go through the IRS program, (for
>> >>>>> example.) Once you've graduated,
>> (since there are no jobs for you in
>> >>>>> that field, they'll ship you to
>> Georgia, Florida, Alabama, or
>> >>>>> somewhere else, without your consent.
>> I want to stay in Arkansas. All
>> >>>>> of my family is here. You think I'm
>> going to a state where I don't
>> >>>>> know anyone from Adam? Nope! That's
>> all LWSB is good for. Stay away!
>> >>>>> Go to LCB, if you want that kind of
>> training, but stay away from LWSB!
>> >>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 2/11/11, Josh Kennedy <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Hi
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I want to let you guys know that I
>> will be going to lions world within
>> >>>>>> the next 5 or so months. I will be
>> going for desktop support
>> >>>>>> technician
>> >>>>>> and then microsoft certified
>> systems engineer program.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Josh
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
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