[nabs-l] lions world

RJ Sandefur joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Sat Feb 12 03:54:31 UTC 2011 

I think that's a good think for those who have psyke issues. What's their 
websight? RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world


> You don't have to attend after the first week. I didn't go to them
> after the first week. Whoever your advisor was, the other one was your
> "Assertiveness Training"  counselor. The turning over of meds must
> have stopped when Anmol went. I think he attended a year or so after I
> did. That's when they got a new administrator. Ramona was crazy! They
> do have good O and M instructors, though. I liked the one I had. I
> just didn't care for the not-so-needed Braille class. I hated the dorm
> rooms. It was mid-fall, and they always had it so hot in the rooms, I
> couldn't stand it. It was 100 degrees, and the only places with air
> conditioning were the cafeterea, the salarium, and the breizway. I
> think the classrooms were hot to. They also, (in my list of
> improvements,) need to tune that stinking piano in the salarium! I bet
> it's still out of tune! Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Anmol,
>> When did you go there? Perhaps the discrepancy in policy and people's
>> experiences has to do with the leadership there.
>> Joshua Lester said everyone had to turn over meds to a nurse.  You said 
>> its
>> optional.
>> Some centers have a rule where you have to be cleared by an O&M staff
>> person. Is this
>> the case at LWSB before you can go off campus?
>>
>> Also acording to the LWSB website, they still have a psychologist and
>> psychiatrist on staff.
>> Is that the case? If so, do you have to take the counseling class, 
>> assertive
>> training I think they call it?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anmol Bhatia
>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:34 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>
>> Josh most of the people who attend LWSB are adults and are treated as 
>> such.
>> There is good and bad to every training centers even the ones run by NFB. 
>> O!
>> and I forgot to address one more point that of taking one's meds. The
>> trainies have the option to give their meds to a nerse but are not 
>> required
>> to do so. However, coming to take the meds is totally the trainy's
>> responsibility. The nerse will not come and find you to remind you to 
>> take
>> your medison.
>>
>> Anmol
>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a 
>> breeze
>> among flowers.
>> Hellen Keller
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 2/11/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 6:19 PM
>>> Exactly! The majority of the trainees
>>> are 5 or more years past
>>> "fresh-out-of-high-school" age. I was the only 18-year-old
>>> there.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 2/11/11, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> > They should get with the 21st century this isn't the
>>> 40's anymore.  Or if it
>>> > is why am I born and what am I doing out hear on this
>>> internet thingie?
>>> > LOL! just kidding!
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list"
>>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:07 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>I don't know, but they've done this since their
>>> founding in 1946.
>>> >> Blessings, Joshua
>>> >>
>>> >> On 2/11/11, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> Why did Lyons World have a curfew and make
>>> everyone relinquish
>>> >>> medications?
>>> >>> That is dumbing really independent blind
>>> adults down to babys in my
>>> >>> opinion!
>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> >>> To: "National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing list"
>>> >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:36 PM
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> lolololol! The food is horible! It's
>>> always warm in the dorm rooms.
>>> >>>> Yes, there's a curfue. Everyone has to
>>> relinquish their meds. The
>>> >>>> piano in the salarium, (I'm a musician,)
>>> is out of tune. I hate old,
>>> >>>> out-of-tune pianos! Someone kept breaking
>>> the rules. He smoked in his
>>> >>>> dorm room. I didn't have a choice on
>>> whether I wanted a room mate or
>>> >>>> not. I couldn't stand him, because he was
>>> always bragging about how
>>> >>>> much alcohol he could consume. I went for
>>> an evaluation, in 2007. I
>>> >>>> haven't attended a training center. I've
>>> received the mobility skills
>>> >>>> in school, and received my endependent
>>> living skills at LWSB. I only
>>> >>>> stayed 4 weeks. That's hw long an
>>> evaluation lasts. I made some
>>> >>>> friends, but some of them, (including my
>>> room mate,) were nothing but
>>> >>>> trouble. There are other places where he
>>> can get training without
>>> >>>> going to that place. O yeah, and too many
>>> of the trainees, allowed
>>> >>>> their guide dogs to run loose. I'm
>>> allergic to dogs.
>>> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> Joshua,
>>> >>>>> I told Josh that on the other nabs
>>> list, the one belonging to ACB; I
>>> >>>>> told
>>> >>>>> him to think through it, think about
>>> the rules and if he'd like to
>>> >>>>> abide
>>> >>>>> by
>>> >>>>> such restrictions.  It didn't
>>> work.
>>> >>>>> Josh has already been to a nfb center;
>>> now he wants to get a
>>> >>>>> certification;
>>> >>>>> so perhaps he's willing to stay
>>> confined at LWSB to get that training.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Joshua, what program did you attend
>>> and did you go to another training
>>> >>>>> center afterward?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> But do they really have a lights out
>>> rule?  Do they really have a
>>> >>>>> curphew
>>> >>>>> where you got to be in your room?
>>> >>>>> I know they got dorms and roommates.
>>> They don't have apartments.
>>> >>>>> Someone
>>> >>>>> told me from Nabs ACB list that the
>>> food was not too good; it was
>>> >>>>> mostly
>>> >>>>> fried food which is very unhealthy.
>>> >>>>> As to nurses, I can understand that if
>>> a blind person cannot identify
>>> >>>>> their
>>> >>>>> meds; I mean some newly blind people
>>> cannot read braille or print and
>>> >>>>> cannot
>>> >>>>> know what meds they have in what
>>> bottle!
>>> >>>>> But some blind people have the skills
>>> already to take their meds.
>>> >>>>> However, is this an individual
>>> thing?  Does everyone have to relinquish
>>> >>>>> their meds, or just the ones who
>>> cannot take it independently yet?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On their website it says you have to
>>> agree to relocate after the
>>> >>>>> program.
>>> >>>>> That sounds terrible for the reasons
>>> you stated. If you don't have
>>> >>>>> friends
>>> >>>>> or family down in say Georga, then why
>>> move there?
>>> >>>>> Maybe so LWSB doesn't hear from you
>>> again.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Ashley
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:04
>>> PM
>>> >>>>> To: National Association of Blind
>>> Students mailing list
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> In Little Rock, Arkansas? I attended
>>> there for 4 weeks. That is one of
>>> >>>>> those centers like the one Tara was
>>> talking about. They have "lights
>>> >>>>> out," "nurses controling meds," etc. I
>>> know, because I was there. They
>>> >>>>> thought that every blind person needed
>>> counseling. They called it
>>> >>>>> assertiveness training. The whole
>>> thing is a scam! They ship you off
>>> >>>>> to another state once you've
>>> graduated. Let's say, your home state is
>>> >>>>> Arkansas, (because that's mine.) You
>>> go through the IRS program, (for
>>> >>>>> example.) Once you've graduated,
>>> (since there are no jobs for you in
>>> >>>>> that field, they'll ship you to
>>> Georgia, Florida, Alabama, or
>>> >>>>> somewhere else, without your consent.
>>> I want to stay in Arkansas. All
>>> >>>>> of my family is here. You think I'm
>>> going to a state where I don't
>>> >>>>> know anyone from Adam? Nope! That's
>>> all LWSB is good for. Stay away!
>>> >>>>> Go to LCB, if you want that kind of
>>> training, but stay away from LWSB!
>>> >>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 2/11/11, Josh Kennedy <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>> Hi
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I want to let you guys know that I
>>> will be going to lions world within
>>> >>>>>> the next 5 or so months. I will be
>>> going for desktop support
>>> >>>>>> technician
>>> >>>>>> and then microsoft certified
>>> systems engineer program.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Josh
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
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