[nabs-l] lions world
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Sat Feb 12 05:37:27 UTC 2011
Anmol,
what are you studying? You live in Arkansas for school; no wonder you know
about the center.
-----Original Message-----
From: Anmol Bhatia
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:58 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
Actually Jerry Leach is not there any more. He is actually doing his PH.D at
the same university as me (University of Arkansas).
Anmol
I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze
among flowers.
Hellen Keller
--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 10:05 PM
> Their Website is, www.lwsb.org.
> Harold Williams, and Jerry Leach are
> the counselors. They're great people, and I appreciate
> them. They're
> more than just counselors, if you have a problem, they're
> there to
> help. If something's going wrong, (the man smoking in his
> room, while
> I'm in there,) (for example,) the counselors are the ones
> to reprimand
> the offender.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 2/11/11, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I think that's a good think for those who have psyke
> issues. What's their
> > websight? RJ
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
> list"
> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
> >
> >
> >> You don't have to attend after the first week. I
> didn't go to them
> >> after the first week. Whoever your advisor was,
> the other one was your
> >> "Assertiveness Training" counselor. The
> turning over of meds must
> >> have stopped when Anmol went. I think he attended
> a year or so after I
> >> did. That's when they got a new administrator.
> Ramona was crazy! They
> >> do have good O and M instructors, though. I liked
> the one I had. I
> >> just didn't care for the not-so-needed Braille
> class. I hated the dorm
> >> rooms. It was mid-fall, and they always had it so
> hot in the rooms, I
> >> couldn't stand it. It was 100 degrees, and the
> only places with air
> >> conditioning were the cafeterea, the salarium, and
> the breizway. I
> >> think the classrooms were hot to. They also, (in
> my list of
> >> improvements,) need to tune that stinking piano in
> the salarium! I bet
> >> it's still out of tune! Blessings, Joshua
> >>
> >> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >>> Anmol,
> >>> When did you go there? Perhaps the discrepancy
> in policy and people's
> >>> experiences has to do with the leadership
> there.
> >>> Joshua Lester said everyone had to turn over
> meds to a nurse. You said
> >>> its
> >>> optional.
> >>> Some centers have a rule where you have to be
> cleared by an O&M staff
> >>> person. Is this
> >>> the case at LWSB before you can go off
> campus?
> >>>
> >>> Also acording to the LWSB website, they still
> have a psychologist and
> >>> psychiatrist on staff.
> >>> Is that the case? If so, do you have to take
> the counseling class,
> >>> assertive
> >>> training I think they call it?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> Ashley
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Anmol Bhatia
> >>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:34 PM
> >>> To: National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list
> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
> >>>
> >>> Josh most of the people who attend LWSB are
> adults and are treated as
> >>> such.
> >>> There is good and bad to every training
> centers even the ones run by NFB.
> >>>
> >>> O!
> >>> and I forgot to address one more point that of
> taking one's meds. The
> >>> trainies have the option to give their meds to
> a nerse but are not
> >>> required
> >>> to do so. However, coming to take the meds is
> totally the trainy's
> >>> responsibility. The nerse will not come and
> find you to remind you to
> >>> take
> >>> your medison.
> >>>
> >>> Anmol
> >>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they
> never make me sad. Perhaps
> >>> there is just a touch of yearning at times;
> but it is vague, like a
> >>> breeze
> >>> among flowers.
> >>> Hellen Keller
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Fri, 2/11/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
> >>>> To: "National Association of Blind
> Students mailing list"
> >>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 6:19 PM
> >>>> Exactly! The majority of the trainees
> >>>> are 5 or more years past
> >>>> "fresh-out-of-high-school" age. I was the
> only 18-year-old
> >>>> there.
> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/11/11, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > They should get with the 21st century
> this isn't the
> >>>> 40's anymore. Or if it
> >>>> > is why am I born and what am I doing
> out hear on this
> >>>> internet thingie?
> >>>> > LOL! just kidding!
> >>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >>>> > To: "National Association of Blind
> Students mailing
> >>>> list"
> >>>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:07
> PM
> >>>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>I don't know, but they've done
> this since their
> >>>> founding in 1946.
> >>>> >> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On 2/11/11, Brian Hatgelakas
> <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>> Why did Lyons World have a
> curfew and make
> >>>> everyone relinquish
> >>>> >>> medications?
> >>>> >>> That is dumbing really
> independent blind
> >>>> adults down to babys in my
> >>>> >>> opinion!
> >>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> >>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >>>> >>> To: "National Association of
> Blind Students
> >>>> mailing list"
> >>>> >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> >>> Sent: Friday, February 11,
> 2011 4:36 PM
> >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions
> world
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> lolololol! The food is
> horible! It's
> >>>> always warm in the dorm rooms.
> >>>> >>>> Yes, there's a curfue.
> Everyone has to
> >>>> relinquish their meds. The
> >>>> >>>> piano in the salarium,
> (I'm a musician,)
> >>>> is out of tune. I hate old,
> >>>> >>>> out-of-tune pianos!
> Someone kept breaking
> >>>> the rules. He smoked in his
> >>>> >>>> dorm room. I didn't have
> a choice on
> >>>> whether I wanted a room mate or
> >>>> >>>> not. I couldn't stand
> him, because he was
> >>>> always bragging about how
> >>>> >>>> much alcohol he could
> consume. I went for
> >>>> an evaluation, in 2007. I
> >>>> >>>> haven't attended a
> training center. I've
> >>>> received the mobility skills
> >>>> >>>> in school, and received
> my endependent
> >>>> living skills at LWSB. I only
> >>>> >>>> stayed 4 weeks. That's hw
> long an
> >>>> evaluation lasts. I made some
> >>>> >>>> friends, but some of
> them, (including my
> >>>> room mate,) were nothing but
> >>>> >>>> trouble. There are other
> places where he
> >>>> can get training without
> >>>> >>>> going to that place. O
> yeah, and too many
> >>>> of the trainees, allowed
> >>>> >>>> their guide dogs to run
> loose. I'm
> >>>> allergic to dogs.
> >>>> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> >>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> Joshua,
> >>>> >>>>> I told Josh that on
> the other nabs
> >>>> list, the one belonging to ACB; I
> >>>> >>>>> told
> >>>> >>>>> him to think through
> it, think about
> >>>> the rules and if he'd like to
> >>>> >>>>> abide
> >>>> >>>>> by
> >>>> >>>>> such
> restrictions. It didn't
> >>>> work.
> >>>> >>>>> Josh has already been
> to a nfb center;
> >>>> now he wants to get a
> >>>> >>>>> certification;
> >>>> >>>>> so perhaps he's
> willing to stay
> >>>> confined at LWSB to get that training.
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Joshua, what program
> did you attend
> >>>> and did you go to another training
> >>>> >>>>> center afterward?
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> But do they really
> have a lights out
> >>>> rule? Do they really have a
> >>>> >>>>> curphew
> >>>> >>>>> where you got to be
> in your room?
> >>>> >>>>> I know they got dorms
> and roommates.
> >>>> They don't have apartments.
> >>>> >>>>> Someone
> >>>> >>>>> told me from Nabs ACB
> list that the
> >>>> food was not too good; it was
> >>>> >>>>> mostly
> >>>> >>>>> fried food which is
> very unhealthy.
> >>>> >>>>> As to nurses, I can
> understand that if
> >>>> a blind person cannot identify
> >>>> >>>>> their
> >>>> >>>>> meds; I mean some
> newly blind people
> >>>> cannot read braille or print and
> >>>> >>>>> cannot
> >>>> >>>>> know what meds they
> have in what
> >>>> bottle!
> >>>> >>>>> But some blind people
> have the skills
> >>>> already to take their meds.
> >>>> >>>>> However, is this an
> individual
> >>>> thing? Does everyone have to
> relinquish
> >>>> >>>>> their meds, or just
> the ones who
> >>>> cannot take it independently yet?
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> On their website it
> says you have to
> >>>> agree to relocate after the
> >>>> >>>>> program.
> >>>> >>>>> That sounds terrible
> for the reasons
> >>>> you stated. If you don't have
> >>>> >>>>> friends
> >>>> >>>>> or family down in say
> Georga, then why
> >>>> move there?
> >>>> >>>>> Maybe so LWSB doesn't
> hear from you
> >>>> again.
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Ashley
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> -----Original
> Message-----
> >>>> >>>>> From: Joshua Lester
> >>>> >>>>> Sent: Friday,
> February 11, 2011 4:04
> >>>> PM
> >>>> >>>>> To: National
> Association of Blind
> >>>> Students mailing list
> >>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l]
> lions world
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> In Little Rock,
> Arkansas? I attended
> >>>> there for 4 weeks. That is one of
> >>>> >>>>> those centers like
> the one Tara was
> >>>> talking about. They have "lights
> >>>> >>>>> out," "nurses
> controling meds," etc. I
> >>>> know, because I was there. They
> >>>> >>>>> thought that every
> blind person needed
> >>>> counseling. They called it
> >>>> >>>>> assertiveness
> training. The whole
> >>>> thing is a scam! They ship you off
> >>>> >>>>> to another state once
> you've
> >>>> graduated. Let's say, your home state is
> >>>> >>>>> Arkansas, (because
> that's mine.) You
> >>>> go through the IRS program, (for
> >>>> >>>>> example.) Once you've
> graduated,
> >>>> (since there are no jobs for you in
> >>>> >>>>> that field, they'll
> ship you to
> >>>> Georgia, Florida, Alabama, or
> >>>> >>>>> somewhere else,
> without your consent.
> >>>> I want to stay in Arkansas. All
> >>>> >>>>> of my family is here.
> You think I'm
> >>>> going to a state where I don't
> >>>> >>>>> know anyone from
> Adam? Nope! That's
> >>>> all LWSB is good for. Stay away!
> >>>> >>>>> Go to LCB, if you
> want that kind of
> >>>> training, but stay away from LWSB!
> >>>> >>>>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> On 2/11/11, Josh
> Kennedy <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>> Hi
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> I want to let you
> guys know that I
> >>>> will be going to lions world within
> >>>> >>>>>> the next 5 or so
> months. I will be
> >>>> going for desktop support
> >>>> >>>>>> technician
> >>>> >>>>>> and then
> microsoft certified
> >>>> systems engineer program.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> Josh
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>
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