[nabs-l] lions world

Sat Feb 12 05:50:12 UTC 2011

There are people from many different states, who are sent there, by
their DSB counselors, rehab counselors, etc. I was the only Arkansan,
(when it came to trainees,) there. I was constantly made fun of,
because of my ocasional, "Y'all." Blessings, Joshua

On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Anmol,
> what are you studying? You live in Arkansas for school; no wonder you know
> about the center.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anmol Bhatia
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:58 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>
> Actually Jerry Leach is not there any more. He is actually doing his PH.D at
> the same university as me (University of Arkansas).
> Anmol
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze
> among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
>
>
> --- On Fri, 2/11/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>
>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 10:05 PM
>> Their Website is, www.lwsb.org.
>> Harold Williams, and Jerry Leach are
>> the counselors. They're great people, and I appreciate
>> them. They're
>> more than just counselors, if you have a problem, they're
>> there to
>> help. If something's going wrong, (the man smoking in his
>> room, while
>> I'm in there,) (for example,) the counselors are the ones
>> to reprimand
>> the offender.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 2/11/11, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I think that's a good think for those who have psyke
>> issues. What's their
>> > websight? RJ
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list"
>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:48 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>> >
>> >
>> >> You don't have to attend after the first week. I
>> didn't go to them
>> >> after the first week. Whoever your advisor was,
>> the other one was your
>> >> "Assertiveness Training"  counselor. The
>> turning over of meds must
>> >> have stopped when Anmol went. I think he attended
>> a year or so after I
>> >> did. That's when they got a new administrator.
>> Ramona was crazy! They
>> >> do have good O and M instructors, though. I liked
>> the one I had. I
>> >> just didn't care for the not-so-needed Braille
>> class. I hated the dorm
>> >> rooms. It was mid-fall, and they always had it so
>> hot in the rooms, I
>> >> couldn't stand it. It was 100 degrees, and the
>> only places with air
>> >> conditioning were the cafeterea, the salarium, and
>> the breizway. I
>> >> think the classrooms were hot to. They also, (in
>> my list of
>> >> improvements,) need to tune that stinking piano in
>> the salarium! I bet
>> >> it's still out of tune! Blessings, Joshua
>> >>
>> >> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>> Anmol,
>> >>> When did you go there? Perhaps the discrepancy
>> in policy and people's
>> >>> experiences has to do with the leadership
>> there.
>> >>> Joshua Lester said everyone had to turn over
>> meds to a nurse.  You said
>> >>> its
>> >>> optional.
>> >>> Some centers have a rule where you have to be
>> cleared by an O&M staff
>> >>> person. Is this
>> >>> the case at LWSB before you can go off
>> campus?
>> >>>
>> >>> Also acording to the LWSB website, they still
>> have a psychologist and
>> >>> psychiatrist on staff.
>> >>> Is that the case? If so, do you have to take
>> the counseling class,
>> >>> assertive
>> >>> training I think they call it?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks.
>> >>> Ashley
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Anmol Bhatia
>> >>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:34 PM
>> >>> To: National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list
>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>> >>>
>> >>> Josh most of the people who attend LWSB are
>> adults and are treated as
>> >>> such.
>> >>> There is good and bad to every training
>> centers even the ones run by NFB.
>> >>>
>> >>> O!
>> >>> and I forgot to address one more point that of
>> taking one's meds. The
>> >>> trainies have the option to give their meds to
>> a nerse but are not
>> >>> required
>> >>> to do so. However, coming to take the meds is
>> totally the trainy's
>> >>> responsibility. The nerse will not come and
>> find you to remind you to
>> >>> take
>> >>> your medison.
>> >>>
>> >>> Anmol
>> >>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they
>> never make me sad. Perhaps
>> >>> there is just a touch of yearning at times;
>> but it is vague, like a
>> >>> breeze
>> >>> among flowers.
>> >>> Hellen Keller
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --- On Fri, 2/11/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>> >>>> To: "National Association of Blind
>> Students mailing list"
>> >>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 6:19 PM
>> >>>> Exactly! The majority of the trainees
>> >>>> are 5 or more years past
>> >>>> "fresh-out-of-high-school" age. I was the
>> only 18-year-old
>> >>>> there.
>> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 2/11/11, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > They should get with the 21st century
>> this isn't the
>> >>>> 40's anymore.  Or if it
>> >>>> > is why am I born and what am I doing
>> out hear on this
>> >>>> internet thingie?
>> >>>> > LOL! just kidding!
>> >>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >>>> > To: "National Association of Blind
>> Students mailing
>> >>>> list"
>> >>>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:07
>> PM
>> >>>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >>I don't know, but they've done
>> this since their
>> >>>> founding in 1946.
>> >>>> >> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On 2/11/11, Brian Hatgelakas
>> <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >>> Why did Lyons World have a
>> curfew and make
>> >>>> everyone relinquish
>> >>>> >>> medications?
>> >>>> >>> That is dumbing really
>> independent blind
>> >>>> adults down to babys in my
>> >>>> >>> opinion!
>> >>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> >>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >>>> >>> To: "National Association of
>> Blind Students
>> >>>> mailing list"
>> >>>> >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> >>> Sent: Friday, February 11,
>> 2011 4:36 PM
>> >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions
>> world
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>> lolololol! The food is
>> horible! It's
>> >>>> always warm in the dorm rooms.
>> >>>> >>>> Yes, there's a curfue.
>> Everyone has to
>> >>>> relinquish their meds. The
>> >>>> >>>> piano in the salarium,
>> (I'm a musician,)
>> >>>> is out of tune. I hate old,
>> >>>> >>>> out-of-tune pianos!
>> Someone kept breaking
>> >>>> the rules. He smoked in his
>> >>>> >>>> dorm room. I didn't have
>> a choice on
>> >>>> whether I wanted a room mate or
>> >>>> >>>> not. I couldn't stand
>> him, because he was
>> >>>> always bragging about how
>> >>>> >>>> much alcohol he could
>> consume. I went for
>> >>>> an evaluation, in 2007. I
>> >>>> >>>> haven't attended a
>> training center. I've
>> >>>> received the mobility skills
>> >>>> >>>> in school, and received
>> my endependent
>> >>>> living skills at LWSB. I only
>> >>>> >>>> stayed 4 weeks. That's hw
>> long an
>> >>>> evaluation lasts. I made some
>> >>>> >>>> friends, but some of
>> them, (including my
>> >>>> room mate,) were nothing but
>> >>>> >>>> trouble. There are other
>> places where he
>> >>>> can get training without
>> >>>> >>>> going to that place. O
>> yeah, and too many
>> >>>> of the trainees, allowed
>> >>>> >>>> their guide dogs to run
>> loose. I'm
>> >>>> allergic to dogs.
>> >>>> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> >>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>> Joshua,
>> >>>> >>>>> I told Josh that on
>> the other nabs
>> >>>> list, the one belonging to ACB; I
>> >>>> >>>>> told
>> >>>> >>>>> him to think through
>> it, think about
>> >>>> the rules and if he'd like to
>> >>>> >>>>> abide
>> >>>> >>>>> by
>> >>>> >>>>> such
>> restrictions.  It didn't
>> >>>> work.
>> >>>> >>>>> Josh has already been
>> to a nfb center;
>> >>>> now he wants to get a
>> >>>> >>>>> certification;
>> >>>> >>>>> so perhaps he's
>> willing to stay
>> >>>> confined at LWSB to get that training.
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>> Joshua, what program
>> did you attend
>> >>>> and did you go to another training
>> >>>> >>>>> center afterward?
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>> But do they really
>> have a lights out
>> >>>> rule?  Do they really have a
>> >>>> >>>>> curphew
>> >>>> >>>>> where you got to be
>> in your room?
>> >>>> >>>>> I know they got dorms
>> and roommates.
>> >>>> They don't have apartments.
>> >>>> >>>>> Someone
>> >>>> >>>>> told me from Nabs ACB
>> list that the
>> >>>> food was not too good; it was
>> >>>> >>>>> mostly
>> >>>> >>>>> fried food which is
>> very unhealthy.
>> >>>> >>>>> As to nurses, I can
>> understand that if
>> >>>> a blind person cannot identify
>> >>>> >>>>> their
>> >>>> >>>>> meds; I mean some
>> newly blind people
>> >>>> cannot read braille or print and
>> >>>> >>>>> cannot
>> >>>> >>>>> know what meds they
>> have in what
>> >>>> bottle!
>> >>>> >>>>> But some blind people
>> have the skills
>> >>>> already to take their meds.
>> >>>> >>>>> However, is this an
>> individual
>> >>>> thing?  Does everyone have to
>> relinquish
>> >>>> >>>>> their meds, or just
>> the ones who
>> >>>> cannot take it independently yet?
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>> On their website it
>> says you have to
>> >>>> agree to relocate after the
>> >>>> >>>>> program.
>> >>>> >>>>> That sounds terrible
>> for the reasons
>> >>>> you stated. If you don't have
>> >>>> >>>>> friends
>> >>>> >>>>> or family down in say
>> Georga, then why
>> >>>> move there?
>> >>>> >>>>> Maybe so LWSB doesn't
>> hear from you
>> >>>> again.
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>> Ashley
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original
>> Message-----
>> >>>> >>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>> >>>> >>>>> Sent: Friday,
>> February 11, 2011 4:04
>> >>>> PM
>> >>>> >>>>> To: National
>> Association of Blind
>> >>>> Students mailing list
>> >>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l]
>> lions world
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>> In Little Rock,
>> Arkansas? I attended
>> >>>> there for 4 weeks. That is one of
>> >>>> >>>>> those centers like
>> the one Tara was
>> >>>> talking about. They have "lights
>> >>>> >>>>> out," "nurses
>> controling meds," etc. I
>> >>>> know, because I was there. They
>> >>>> >>>>> thought that every
>> blind person needed
>> >>>> counseling. They called it
>> >>>> >>>>> assertiveness
>> training. The whole
>> >>>> thing is a scam! They ship you off
>> >>>> >>>>> to another state once
>> you've
>> >>>> graduated. Let's say, your home state is
>> >>>> >>>>> Arkansas, (because
>> that's mine.) You
>> >>>> go through the IRS program, (for
>> >>>> >>>>> example.) Once you've
>> graduated,
>> >>>> (since there are no jobs for you in
>> >>>> >>>>> that field, they'll
>> ship you to
>> >>>> Georgia, Florida, Alabama, or
>> >>>> >>>>> somewhere else,
>> without your consent.
>> >>>> I want to stay in Arkansas. All
>> >>>> >>>>> of my family is here.
>> You think I'm
>> >>>> going to a state where I don't
>> >>>> >>>>> know anyone from
>> Adam? Nope! That's
>> >>>> all LWSB is good for. Stay away!
>> >>>> >>>>> Go to LCB, if you
>> want that kind of
>> >>>> training, but stay away from LWSB!
>> >>>> >>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>> On 2/11/11, Josh
>> Kennedy <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>>> Hi
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> I want to let you
>> guys know that I
>> >>>> will be going to lions world within
>> >>>> >>>>>> the next 5 or so
>> months. I will be
>> >>>> going for desktop support
>> >>>> >>>>>> technician
>> >>>> >>>>>> and then
>> microsoft certified
>> >>>> systems engineer program.
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> Josh
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
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