[nabs-l] lions world

[David Andrews]

Anything is possible but it will take some people with the will, 
know-how, and wherewithal to get it done.

Dave


>What about possibly doing something in NYC?
>
>
>On Feb 11, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>
> > It takes alot of time, and money, but it will be worth it. I'm not
> > going to Rustin, LA, because I don't know of any Apostolic Pentecostal
> > churches in that area. How far is Alexandria from there? Blessings,
> > Joshua
> >
> > On 2/11/11, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Do you have any idea what this would involv? RJs
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:30 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
> >>
> >>
> >>> Mr. Andrews, there are plenty of blind people in Arkansas, for us,
> >>> (the NFB,) to start a center. What's the holdup? I'll E-mail our new
> >>> state president, and we'll raise money for this.
> >>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>
> >>> On 2/11/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> >>>> Because they view us as blind persons as being very limited and they
> >>>> must take care of and watch out for us.  This is in part why we, in
> >>>> the NFB, started our own Centers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>> At 06:00 PM 2/11/2011, you wrote:
> >>>>> Why did Lyons World have a curfew and make everyone relinquish
> >>>>> medications? That is dumbing really independent blind adults down to
> >>>>> babys in my opinion!
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester"
> >>>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> >>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:36 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> lolololol! The food is horible! It's always warm in the dorm rooms.
> >>>>>> Yes, there's a curfue. Everyone has to relinquish their meds. The
> >>>>>> piano in the salarium, (I'm a musician,) is out of tune. I hate old,
> >>>>>> out-of-tune pianos! Someone kept breaking the rules. He smoked in his
> >>>>>> dorm room. I didn't have a choice on whether I wanted a room mate or
> >>>>>> not. I couldn't stand him, because he was always bragging about how
> >>>>>> much alcohol he could consume. I went for an evaluation, in 2007. I
> >>>>>> haven't attended a training center. I've received the mobility skills
> >>>>>> in school, and received my endependent living skills at LWSB. I only
> >>>>>> stayed 4 weeks. That's hw long an evaluation lasts. I made some
> >>>>>> friends, but some of them, (including my room mate,) were nothing but
> >>>>>> trouble. There are other places where he can get training without
> >>>>>> going to that place. O yeah, and too many of the trainees, allowed
> >>>>>> their guide dogs to run loose. I'm allergic to dogs.
> >>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net 
> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Joshua,
> >>>>>>> I told Josh that on the other nabs list, the one belonging to ACB; I
> >>>>>>> told
> >>>>>>> him to think through it, think about the rules and if he'd like to
> >>>>>>> abide
> >>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>> such restrictions.  It didn't work.
> >>>>>>> Josh has already been to a nfb center; now he wants to get a
> >>>>>>> certification;
> >>>>>>> so perhaps he's willing to stay confined at LWSB to get 
> that training.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Joshua, what program did you attend and did you go to 
> another training
> >>>>>>> center afterward?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But do they really have a lights out rule?  Do they really have a
> >>>>>>> curphew
> >>>>>>> where you got to be in your room?
> >>>>>>> I know they got dorms and roommates. They don't have apartments.
> >>>>>>> Someone
> >>>>>>> told me from Nabs ACB list that the food was not too good; it was
> >>>>>>> mostly
> >>>>>>> fried food which is very unhealthy.
> >>>>>>> As to nurses, I can understand that if a blind person cannot identify
> >>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>> meds; I mean some newly blind people cannot read braille or print and
> >>>>>>> cannot
> >>>>>>> know what meds they have in what bottle!
> >>>>>>> But some blind people have the skills already to take their meds.
> >>>>>>> However, is this an individual thing?  Does everyone have 
> to relinquish
> >>>>>>> their meds, or just the ones who cannot take it independently yet?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On their website it says you have to agree to relocate after the
> >>>>>>> program.
> >>>>>>> That sounds terrible for the reasons you stated. If you don't have
> >>>>>>> friends
> >>>>>>> or family down in say Georga, then why move there?
> >>>>>>> Maybe so LWSB doesn't hear from you again.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ashley
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: Joshua Lester
> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:04 PM
> >>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In Little Rock, Arkansas? I attended there for 4 weeks. 
> That is one of
> >>>>>>> those centers like the one Tara was talking about. They have "lights
> >>>>>>> out," "nurses controling meds," etc. I know, because I was 
> there. They
> >>>>>>> thought that every blind person needed counseling. They called it
> >>>>>>> assertiveness training. The whole thing is a scam! They ship you off
> >>>>>>> to another state once you've graduated. Let's say, your home state is
> >>>>>>> Arkansas, (because that's mine.) You go through the IRS program, (for
> >>>>>>> example.) Once you've graduated, (since there are no jobs for you in
> >>>>>>> that field, they'll ship you to Georgia, Florida, Alabama, or
> >>>>>>> somewhere else, without your consent. I want to stay in Arkansas. All
> >>>>>>> of my family is here. You think I'm going to a state where I don't
> >>>>>>> know anyone from Adam? Nope! That's all LWSB is good for. Stay away!
> >>>>>>> Go to LCB, if you want that kind of training, but stay away 
> from LWSB!
> >>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2/11/11, Josh Kennedy <jkenn337 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I want to let you guys know that I will be going to lions 
> world within
> >>>>>>>> the next 5 or so months. I will be going for desktop support
> >>>>>>>> technician
> >>>>>>>> and then microsoft certified systems engineer program.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Josh