[nabs-l] lions world

Brian Hatgelakas brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net
Sat Feb 12 22:31:41 UTC 2011


We can do it don't forget at the NFB we have a "can do attitude"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world


> Anything is possible but it will take some people with the will, know-how, 
> and wherewithal to get it done.
>
> Dave
>
>
>>What about possibly doing something in NYC?
>>
>>
>>On Feb 11, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>
>> > It takes alot of time, and money, but it will be worth it. I'm not
>> > going to Rustin, LA, because I don't know of any Apostolic Pentecostal
>> > churches in that area. How far is Alexandria from there? Blessings,
>> > Joshua
>> >
>> > On 2/11/11, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Do you have any idea what this would involv? RJs
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:30 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Mr. Andrews, there are plenty of blind people in Arkansas, for us,
>> >>> (the NFB,) to start a center. What's the holdup? I'll E-mail our new
>> >>> state president, and we'll raise money for this.
>> >>> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2/11/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Because they view us as blind persons as being very limited and they
>> >>>> must take care of and watch out for us.  This is in part why we, in
>> >>>> the NFB, started our own Centers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dave
>> >>>>
>> >>>> At 06:00 PM 2/11/2011, you wrote:
>> >>>>> Why did Lyons World have a curfew and make everyone relinquish
>> >>>>> medications? That is dumbing really independent blind adults down 
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> babys in my opinion!
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester"
>> >>>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> >>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:36 PM
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> lolololol! The food is horible! It's always warm in the dorm 
>> >>>>>> rooms.
>> >>>>>> Yes, there's a curfue. Everyone has to relinquish their meds. The
>> >>>>>> piano in the salarium, (I'm a musician,) is out of tune. I hate 
>> >>>>>> old,
>> >>>>>> out-of-tune pianos! Someone kept breaking the rules. He smoked in 
>> >>>>>> his
>> >>>>>> dorm room. I didn't have a choice on whether I wanted a room mate 
>> >>>>>> or
>> >>>>>> not. I couldn't stand him, because he was always bragging about 
>> >>>>>> how
>> >>>>>> much alcohol he could consume. I went for an evaluation, in 2007. 
>> >>>>>> I
>> >>>>>> haven't attended a training center. I've received the mobility 
>> >>>>>> skills
>> >>>>>> in school, and received my endependent living skills at LWSB. I 
>> >>>>>> only
>> >>>>>> stayed 4 weeks. That's hw long an evaluation lasts. I made some
>> >>>>>> friends, but some of them, (including my room mate,) were nothing 
>> >>>>>> but
>> >>>>>> trouble. There are other places where he can get training without
>> >>>>>> going to that place. O yeah, and too many of the trainees, allowed
>> >>>>>> their guide dogs to run loose. I'm allergic to dogs.
>> >>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Joshua,
>> >>>>>>> I told Josh that on the other nabs list, the one belonging to 
>> >>>>>>> ACB; I
>> >>>>>>> told
>> >>>>>>> him to think through it, think about the rules and if he'd like 
>> >>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>> abide
>> >>>>>>> by
>> >>>>>>> such restrictions.  It didn't work.
>> >>>>>>> Josh has already been to a nfb center; now he wants to get a
>> >>>>>>> certification;
>> >>>>>>> so perhaps he's willing to stay confined at LWSB to get
>> that training.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Joshua, what program did you attend and did you go to
>> another training
>> >>>>>>> center afterward?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> But do they really have a lights out rule?  Do they really have a
>> >>>>>>> curphew
>> >>>>>>> where you got to be in your room?
>> >>>>>>> I know they got dorms and roommates. They don't have apartments.
>> >>>>>>> Someone
>> >>>>>>> told me from Nabs ACB list that the food was not too good; it was
>> >>>>>>> mostly
>> >>>>>>> fried food which is very unhealthy.
>> >>>>>>> As to nurses, I can understand that if a blind person cannot 
>> >>>>>>> identify
>> >>>>>>> their
>> >>>>>>> meds; I mean some newly blind people cannot read braille or print 
>> >>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>> cannot
>> >>>>>>> know what meds they have in what bottle!
>> >>>>>>> But some blind people have the skills already to take their meds.
>> >>>>>>> However, is this an individual thing?  Does everyone have
>> to relinquish
>> >>>>>>> their meds, or just the ones who cannot take it independently 
>> >>>>>>> yet?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On their website it says you have to agree to relocate after the
>> >>>>>>> program.
>> >>>>>>> That sounds terrible for the reasons you stated. If you don't 
>> >>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>> friends
>> >>>>>>> or family down in say Georga, then why move there?
>> >>>>>>> Maybe so LWSB doesn't hear from you again.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Ashley
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:04 PM
>> >>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> In Little Rock, Arkansas? I attended there for 4 weeks.
>> That is one of
>> >>>>>>> those centers like the one Tara was talking about. They have 
>> >>>>>>> "lights
>> >>>>>>> out," "nurses controling meds," etc. I know, because I was
>> there. They
>> >>>>>>> thought that every blind person needed counseling. They called it
>> >>>>>>> assertiveness training. The whole thing is a scam! They ship you 
>> >>>>>>> off
>> >>>>>>> to another state once you've graduated. Let's say, your home 
>> >>>>>>> state is
>> >>>>>>> Arkansas, (because that's mine.) You go through the IRS program, 
>> >>>>>>> (for
>> >>>>>>> example.) Once you've graduated, (since there are no jobs for you 
>> >>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>> that field, they'll ship you to Georgia, Florida, Alabama, or
>> >>>>>>> somewhere else, without your consent. I want to stay in Arkansas. 
>> >>>>>>> All
>> >>>>>>> of my family is here. You think I'm going to a state where I 
>> >>>>>>> don't
>> >>>>>>> know anyone from Adam? Nope! That's all LWSB is good for. Stay 
>> >>>>>>> away!
>> >>>>>>> Go to LCB, if you want that kind of training, but stay away
>> from LWSB!
>> >>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 2/11/11, Josh Kennedy <jkenn337 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> Hi
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I want to let you guys know that I will be going to lions
>> world within
>> >>>>>>>> the next 5 or so months. I will be going for desktop support
>> >>>>>>>> technician
>> >>>>>>>> and then microsoft certified systems engineer program.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Josh
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