[nabs-l] windows live mail

Wed Jan 26 17:02:20 UTC 2011

Hi Steve,
I do have the latest version of jaws; thanks for the suggestion.
I did not know microsoft told screen reader companies of the changes.  
I think its a great idea to call FS and bring it to their attention. I can use it to some extent.  But its my belief as i test its accessibility that windows live mail is not fully accessible; yes its partly accessible.  But what's most annoying is i cannot  tell what messages are unread with jaws. 
I can see that if I look closely because unread messages are highlighted but I should be able to glean this info with jaws.

Ashley

-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>Sent: Jan 26, 2011 10:42 AM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows live mail
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>Ashley,
>
>Which version of JFW are you using?  If you are not using JFW 11 or 12, you should try the demo and see if it makes a difference.  If you are using the 
>latest version, you should contact Freedom Scientific as it is my understanding they had things working with Windows Live Mail pretty well.
>
>While there is blame enough for everyone, it needs to be understood that Microsoft has been warning screen reader developers for several years that they 
>will be using some different technology in some of their software.  Screen reader developers tend not to deal with warnings that much, because they have 
>other priorities.  They deal with it not until it becomes reality as it is happening in this case.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Steve Jacobson
>
>On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:21:04 -0500, bookwormahb at earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>What I mean is jaws does not tell you everything it should.
>>Jaws should say what messages are unread as it did in outlook express.
>>In a list, normally you can type the letter of the option you want. That is 
>>standard in jaws.
>>But I found I have to arrow to everything in the tree list view.  Also a few 
>>buttons in the ribbon are not labeled. Unless you used windows live mail you 
>>don't know how accessible/user friendly it is.
>
>>Ashley
>
>>-----Original Message----- 
>>From: Elizabeth
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:14 PM
>>To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows live mail
>
>
>>Please forgive me, but how does hitting the down arrow several times mean 
>>that something is not accessible? It seems to me that if it was not 
>>accessible then you would not be able to use the program at all. Simply 
>>because the program does not appear to have all of the features you want 
>>does not necessarily mean that a blind person cannot use it. Just my two 
>>cents on the matter.
>
>>Elizabeth
>
>>> From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:14:01 -0500
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] windows live mail
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Im trying to figure out whether to stay with windows live mail or try 
>>> thunderbird as my email client.
>>> Live mail is the new version of outlook express.
>>> I really need to create message rules to sort emails.
>>> Do you have these problems if you use it with jaws?
>>> The problems I am finding so far:
>>> 1. While I can read and send email using shortcut keys like control N and 
>>> alt S, jaws does not tell me what is unread. It used to say 
unread
 when 
>>> I arrowed to an unread message in outlook express.
>>> 2. I cannot arrow through the list using the first letter as I normally do 
>>> in a list. For instance D for deleted items; instead I have to arrow down 
>>> several times to get there.
>>>
>>> Can this be fixed or is this just partly inaccessible?
>>>
>>> Ashley
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