[nabs-l] windows live mail

Wed Jan 26 18:30:33 UTC 2011

Ashley,

Also, it may matter which version of Windows Live Mail you have, 2010 or the new 2011, as well, so you may need to know that when you contact Freedom 
Scientific.  

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:02:20 -0500 (GMT-05:00), bookwormahb at earthlink.net wrote:

>Hi Steve,
>I do have the latest version of jaws; thanks for the suggestion.
>I did not know microsoft told screen reader companies of the changes.  
>I think its a great idea to call FS and bring it to their attention. I can use it to some extent.  But its my belief as i test its accessibility that windows live mail is 
not fully accessible; yes its partly accessible.  But what's most annoying is i cannot  tell what messages are unread with jaws. 
>I can see that if I look closely because unread messages are highlighted but I should be able to glean this info with jaws.

>Ashley

>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>>Sent: Jan 26, 2011 10:42 AM
>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows live mail
>>
>>Ashley,
>>
>>Which version of JFW are you using?  If you are not using JFW 11 or 12, you should try the demo and see if it makes a difference.  If you are using the 
>>latest version, you should contact Freedom Scientific as it is my understanding they had things working with Windows Live Mail pretty well.
>>
>>While there is blame enough for everyone, it needs to be understood that Microsoft has been warning screen reader developers for several years that 
they 
>>will be using some different technology in some of their software.  Screen reader developers tend not to deal with warnings that much, because they have 
>>other priorities.  They deal with it not until it becomes reality as it is happening in this case.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Steve Jacobson
>>
>>On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:21:04 -0500, bookwormahb at earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>>>What I mean is jaws does not tell you everything it should.
>>>Jaws should say what messages are unread as it did in outlook express.
>>>In a list, normally you can type the letter of the option you want. That is 
>>>standard in jaws.
>>>But I found I have to arrow to everything in the tree list view.  Also a few 
>>>buttons in the ribbon are not labeled. Unless you used windows live mail you 
>>>don't know how accessible/user friendly it is.
>>
>>>Ashley
>>
>>>-----Original Message----- 
>>>From: Elizabeth
>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:14 PM
>>>To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] windows live mail
>>
>>
>>>Please forgive me, but how does hitting the down arrow several times mean 
>>>that something is not accessible? It seems to me that if it was not 
>>>accessible then you would not be able to use the program at all. Simply 
>>>because the program does not appear to have all of the features you want 
>>>does not necessarily mean that a blind person cannot use it. Just my two 
>>>cents on the matter.
>>
>>>Elizabeth
>>
>>>> From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:14:01 -0500
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] windows live mail
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Im trying to figure out whether to stay with windows live mail or try 
>>>> thunderbird as my email client.
>>>> Live mail is the new version of outlook express.
>>>> I really need to create message rules to sort emails.
>>>> Do you have these problems if you use it with jaws?
>>>> The problems I am finding so far:
>>>> 1. While I can read and send email using shortcut keys like control N and 
>>>> alt S, jaws does not tell me what is unread. It used to say 
unread
 when 
>>>> I arrowed to an unread message in outlook express.
>>>> 2. I cannot arrow through the list using the first letter as I normally do 
>>>> in a list. For instance D for deleted items; instead I have to arrow down 
>>>> several times to get there.
>>>>
>>>> Can this be fixed or is this just partly inaccessible?
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
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