[nabs-l] Fwd: Reminder-Upcoming Seminars: NO COOK Cooking! and Going Ape for Apps-Hot New Accessible Apps for Your iDevice

Wed Jul 20 00:37:29 UTC 2011

Hi, Joseph,

'Seems to me, a response such as that elicited by 
an idea of no-cook recipes was, in a word a 
little uncalled for, as there, contained in the 
helpful sharing of cookless recipes no mention of 
blindness whatsoever. Furthermore, I believe 
there are  even occasions in which , no-cook food 
preparation is in order and, actually preparing a dish would be inappropriate.

To Alienate both main stream folk, as well as 
other populations will do actual wonders for our 
social  ambiguities, doncha think?
Please, easy on the over reactions!
for today,
Car7/19/2011, bookwormahb at earthlink.net wrote:
>Joeseph, Actually, I found this fine. I want to 
>attend a hadley webinar  but that time doesn't 
>work for me. Maybe they are archived; the 
>wording of it says its summer and they want to 
>talk about food prep that doesn't require a hot 
>kitchen. Also it says whether you are preparing 
>for yourself or to impress guests. So therefore 
>they are assuming that you will prepare for 
>yourself, family or friends; whatever you need 
>to do. Hadley targets many many people including 
>teachers of the blind and visually impaired; 
>newly blind adults and those blind from birth. I 
>take it that this is an overview of cooking 
>ideas and recipies. Its probably something basic 
>that most could follow from the novice cook to 
>the advanced cook who wants something simple. I 
>didn't find it offensive at all; I think we read 
>more into things sometimes. It does say they 
>will discuss tips for people with visual 
>impairments; I know NFB people don't like 
>adaptive techniques sometimes, so you can take 
>it or leave it. But we do need adaptive 
>techniques and a newly blind person may not know 
>what to do. Many blind cooks use a tray or 
>something to put their  pots and pans and bowls 
>on while preparing food so any spills fall on 
>the tray and its easier to clean up. Some blind 
>people use liquid level indicators  to know when 
>their cup is full of the desired liquid. More 
>often people use a finger to fill the bowl/cup 
>or judge by sound.  But for those who can't or 
>don't want to use their finger, the liquid level 
>indicator is an option. We often use the sense 
>of touch instead of seeing to know the 
>consistency of food and keep tabs on what we are 
>doing. So those are adaptive techniques.  Anyone 
>may want simple cold food recipies; Hadley just 
>decided to target it to blind people. However I 
>do agree a sixty minute seminar is too short to 
>cover such a topic. But I guess that is all the 
>time they had.  Well, anyone who attends can 
>judge afterward. Ashley -----Original 
>Message----- From: T. Joseph Carter Sent: 
>Tuesday, July 19, 2011 3:10 PM To: National 
>Association of Blind Students mailing list 
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Fwd: Reminder-Upcoming 
>Seminars: NO COOK Cooking! and Going Ape for 
>Apps-Hot New Accessible Apps for Your iDevice 
>Iâ€™m of two minds on this, perhaps Iâ€™m being 
>overly sensitive. First, thereâ€™s the notion of 
>a seminar for preparing food without cooking 
>it.  Where do I begin?  Letâ€™s start with the 
>seminar itself: Most sighted people would never 
>expect a seminar to teach them how to follow a 
>recipe.  Either you can or you donâ€™t have the 
>requisite skills to do it.  If you donâ€™t have 
>the skills, Iâ€™m not sure how a 60 minute 
>webcast is going to help you get them.  A list 
>of recipes should suffice, and indeed our own 
>Braille Monitor publishes recipes (though not 
>often the no-cooking variety) with the 
>assumption that fellow blind readers can follow 
>them if they are so inclined. Then thereâ€™s the 
>no cooking aspect.  Inherently in this is the 
>unavoidable assumption that the blind cannot or 
>should not be cooking food.  Any of you who live 
>alone doubtlessly have SOME food prep skill, 
>even if youâ€™ve never learned to "cook" as 
>such, and your skill mostly consists of using a 
>microwave and boiling water. But as I said, 
>perhaps I am being overly sensitive.  The 
>seminar format could allow for suggestions for 
>improving the recipes a bit (in which case an 
>hour seems too short for more than maybe two or 
>three recipes), so maybe thatâ€™s what theyâ€™ve 
>got in mind.  Possibly the no-cook aspect has 
>more to do with the idea that itâ€™s summer and 
>you donâ€™t want to spend a lot of time in a hot 
>kitchen—or  that you would prefer cold foods to 
>hot ones at this time of the year.  Or perhaps 
>they are targeting this to college students who 
>live on campus and donâ€™t have the means to 
>cook in any traditional way. Or maybe, itâ€™s 
>because weâ€™re blind. Joseph - KF7QZC On Tue, 
>Jul 19, 2011 at 01:17:55PM -0500, David Andrews 
>wrote: > >> >>Seminars at Hadley Presents: NO COOK 
>Cooking! >> >>Date: Wednesday, July 20, 
>2011 >>Time: 10 AM CDT, 15:00 GMT >> >>Keep your 
>cool! It may be hot outside, but no need to get 
>out of the >>kitchen. There are lots of NO COOK 
>recipes to choose from whether >>preparing a 
>simple, fast meal for yourself or something to 
>impress guests. >> >>Panelists Patti Jacobson, 
>Linn Sorge and Goldie Tarr will discuss 
>their >>favorite NO COOK recipes, adding 
>Ã¢€œcoolÃ¢€Â fo food preparation tips 
>that >>work for the cook with a visual 
>impairment. >> >>Moderator Dawn Turco will add a 
>few of her favorites as we build a >>resource 
>and recipe list during this 60 minute seminar. 
>Consider adding >>your favorite recipe, 
>too! >> >>Space in this seminar is limited. 
>Please only register if you know you 
>are >>available to attend so that others are not 
>closed out. To register for NO >>COOK Cooking! 
>on July 20, follow this 
>link: >>http://hadley.edu/seminar_detail.asp?sid= 
>94 >> >>Seminars at Hadley Presents: Going Ape for 
>Apps-How New Accessible Apps for >>Your 
>iDevice >> >>Date: Thursday, July 21, 
>2011 >>Time: 6 PM CDT, 23:00 GMT >> >>Apps for 
>money identification, apps for GPS, apps for bar 
>code reading, >>apps for color identification, 
>and apps for games. If you have an 
>idevice >>(iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch), you are 
>bombarded with thousands of apps >>available for 
>your device. Are you overwhelmed with the number 
>of apps >>available for your idevice? Do you 
>want to know more about the app before >>you 
>download it to your device, such as features and 
>accessibility? Are >>you confused about how to 
>locate and download an app to your 
>idevice? >> >>Join Seminars at Hadley as Hadley 
>Instructor Amy Salmon and Korey 
>Singleton, >>Assistive Technology Initiative 
>Manager for George Mason University >>provide a 
>list of the top accessible apps for your 
>idevices, explain how >>to check an app for 
>accessibility and features, and provide 
>step-by-step >>instructions on how to locate and 
>download an app to your idevice. >> >>This 60 
>minute open discussion seminar will be moderated 
>by Hadley >>Outreach Coordinator Billy 
>Brookshire. A question and answer session 
>will >>be included as part of the 
>seminar. >> >>Space in this seminar is limited. 
>Please only register if you know you 
>are >>available to attend so that others are not 
>closed out. To register for >>Going Ape for Apps 
>on July 21, follow this 
>link: >>http://hadley.edu/seminar_detail.asp?sid= 
>95 >> >>This message was sent to 
>Dandrews at visi.com from: >>The Hadley School for 
>the Blind | 700 Elm St.  | Winnetka, IL 
>60093 > > >______________________________________ 
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