[nabs-l] Fwd: Reminder-Upcoming Seminars: NO COOK Cooking! and Going Ape for Apps-Hot New Accessible Apps for Your iDevice

T. Joseph Carter carter.tjoseph at gmail.com
Wed Jul 20 00:22:26 UTC 2011 

Ashley,

I’ve never heard of the NFB rejecting adaptive techniques.  Never.  I 
have heard the NFB reject the notion that we are incapable of doing 
the most basic things, or that we need to have someone teach us the 
means to do something as simple as change which arm we are using 
while walking with a sighted friend, or even more ridiculously, how 
to take a shower.

When I learned something about cooking at the Colorado Center, I had 
to learn a great deal of adaptive techniques for working in the 
kitchen, and I still don’t consider myself to be particularly adept 
as a cook.

I do worry that I am perhaps a little too eager to think the worst, 
and Hadley does not particularly stand out in my mind as being 
especially bad about having low expectations.  It’s just that there 
are so many flags that go up with this one for me, I had to ask the 
question.  If others didn’t see them the same way, then I won’t worry 
about it too much.

Joseph - KF7QZC


On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 07:56:09PM -0400, bookwormahb at earthlink.net wrote:
>Joeseph,
>Actually, I found this fine. I want to attend a hadley webinar  but 
>that time doesn't work for me.
>Maybe they are archived; the wording of it says its summer and they 
>want to talk about food prep that doesn't require a hot kitchen.
>Also it says whether
>you are preparing for yourself or to impress guests.
>So therefore they are assuming that you will prepare for yourself, 
>family or friends; whatever you need to do.
>Hadley targets many many people including teachers of the blind and 
>visually impaired; newly blind adults and those blind from birth.
>I take it that this is an overview of cooking ideas and recipies. Its 
>probably something basic that most could follow from the novice cook 
>to the advanced cook who wants something simple.
>I didn't find it offensive at all; I think we read more into things 
>sometimes. It does say they will discuss
>tips for people with visual impairments; I know NFB people don't like 
>adaptive techniques sometimes, so you can take it or leave it. But
>we do need adaptive techniques and a newly blind person may not know 
>what to do.
>Many blind cooks use a tray or something to put their  pots and pans 
>and bowls on while preparing food so any spills fall on the tray and 
>its easier to clean up. Some blind people use liquid level indicators  
>to know
>when their cup is full of the desired liquid. More often people use a 
>finger to fill the bowl/cup or judge by sound.  But for those who 
>can't or don't want to use their finger, the liquid level indicator
>is an option.
>We often use the sense of touch instead of seeing to know the 
>consistency of food and keep tabs on what we are doing.
>So those are adaptive techniques.  Anyone may want simple cold food 
>recipies; Hadley just decided to target it to blind people.
>However I do agree a sixty minute seminar is too short to cover such 
>a topic. But I guess that is all the time they had.  Well, anyone who 
>attends can judge afterward.
>
>Ashley
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message----- From: T. Joseph Carter
>Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 3:10 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Fwd: Reminder-Upcoming Seminars: NO COOK 
>Cooking! and Going Ape for Apps-Hot New Accessible Apps for Your 
>iDevice
>
>I’m of two minds on this, perhaps I’m being overly sensitive.
>
>First, there’s the notion of a seminar for preparing food without
>cooking it.  Where do I begin?  Let’s start with the seminar itself:
>Most sighted people would never expect a seminar to teach them how to
>follow a recipe.  Either you can or you don’t have the requisite
>skills to do it.  If you don’t have the skills, I’m not sure how a 60
>minute webcast is going to help you get them.  A list of recipes
>should suffice, and indeed our own Braille Monitor publishes recipes
>(though not often the no-cooking variety) with the assumption that
>fellow blind readers can follow them if they are so inclined.
>
>Then there’s the no cooking aspect.  Inherently in this is the
>unavoidable assumption that the blind cannot or should not be cooking
>food.  Any of you who live alone doubtlessly have SOME food prep
>skill, even if you’ve never learned to "cook" as such, and your skill
>mostly consists of using a microwave and boiling water.
>
>But as I said, perhaps I am being overly sensitive.  The seminar
>format could allow for suggestions for improving the recipes a bit
>(in which case an hour seems too short for more than maybe two or
>three recipes), so maybe that’s what they’ve got in mind.  Possibly
>the no-cook aspect has more to do with the idea that it’s summer and
>you don’t want to spend a lot of time in a hot kitchen—or that you
>would prefer cold foods to hot ones at this time of the year.  Or
>perhaps they are targeting this to college students who live on
>campus and don’t have the means to cook in any traditional way.
>
>Or maybe, it’s because we’re blind.
>
>Joseph - KF7QZC
>
>
>On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 01:17:55PM -0500, David Andrews wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Seminars at Hadley Presents: NO COOK Cooking!
>>>
>>>Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011
>>>Time: 10 AM CDT, 15:00 GMT
>>>
>>>Keep your cool! It may be hot outside, but no need to get out of 
>>>the kitchen. There are lots of NO COOK recipes to choose from 
>>>whether preparing a simple, fast meal for yourself or something 
>>>to impress guests.
>>>
>>>Panelists Patti Jacobson, Linn Sorge and Goldie Tarr will discuss 
>>>their favorite NO COOK recipes, adding “cool” food 
>>>preparation tips that work for the cook with a visual impairment.
>>>
>>>Moderator Dawn Turco will add a few of her favorites as we build 
>>>a resource and recipe list during this 60 minute seminar. 
>>>Consider adding your favorite recipe, too!
>>>
>>>Space in this seminar is limited. Please only register if you 
>>>know you are available to attend so that others are not closed 
>>>out. To register for NO COOK Cooking! on July 20, follow this 
>>>link: http://hadley.edu/seminar_detail.asp?sid=94
>>>
>>>Seminars at Hadley Presents: Going Ape for Apps-How New Accessible 
>>>Apps for Your iDevice
>>>
>>>Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011
>>>Time: 6 PM CDT, 23:00 GMT
>>>
>>>Apps for money identification, apps for GPS, apps for bar code 
>>>reading, apps for color identification, and apps for games. If 
>>>you have an idevice (iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch), you are 
>>>bombarded with thousands of apps available for your device. Are 
>>>you overwhelmed with the number of apps available for your 
>>>idevice? Do you want to know more about the app before you 
>>>download it to your device, such as features and accessibility? 
>>>Are you confused about how to locate and download an app to your 
>>>idevice?
>>>
>>>Join Seminars at Hadley as Hadley Instructor Amy Salmon and Korey 
>>>Singleton, Assistive Technology Initiative Manager for George 
>>>Mason University provide a list of the top accessible apps for 
>>>your idevices, explain how to check an app for accessibility and 
>>>features, and provide step-by-step instructions on how to locate 
>>>and download an app to your idevice.
>>>
>>>This 60 minute open discussion seminar will be moderated by 
>>>Hadley Outreach Coordinator Billy Brookshire. A question and 
>>>answer session will be included as part of the seminar.
>>>
>>>Space in this seminar is limited. Please only register if you 
>>>know you are available to attend so that others are not closed 
>>>out. To register for Going Ape for Apps on July 21, follow this 
>>>link: http://hadley.edu/seminar_detail.asp?sid=95
>>>
>>>This message was sent to Dandrews at visi.com from:
>>>The Hadley School for the Blind | 700 Elm St.  | Winnetka, IL 60093
>>
>>
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