[nabs-l] JAWS problem with new laptop

Sun Jul 31 06:54:20 UTC 2011

Duplicates are caused either by the sender having the same message go 
out with different Message-Id: headers (one of the hidden headers on 
an email that you don’t normally see with most mail programs) or by 
the list software thinking it hasn’t yet successfully sent you a copy 
of the message and trying again.

The latter appears to have happened in the case of William’s message, 
so it’s not his doing.

Gmail and a few other services will not save duplicate messages that 
have the same Message-Id:, which cuts down on duplicates from mailing 
lists a lot.  This is a problem, however, because sometimes two 
messages can show up with the same Message-Id: that are not actually 
the same message.  In theory, that never happens.  In practice, 
however, it does.

In fact, it happens every time you send someone an email whilst also 
sending it to a mailing list to which they subscribe.  They ought to 
get a copy of the message from each, but the message will have the 
same Message-Id: from both sources.  Just that one message will pass 
through the mailing list software and be altered by it—list footer 
and additional headers added, that sort of things.

I actually go to significant lengths to ensure that Gmail does not 
see a copy of messages I send to the list before they come back to it 
from the list.  If I didn’t, I’d never know if my own messages were 
reaching the list or not because the list’s copy would be considered 
a duplicate and casually deleted.  It’s quite annoying.

Joseph - KF7QZC

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 01:01:48AM -0400, wmodnl wmodnl wrote:
>
>No, I did not sent it 3 times.  I have had this happen with other messages.  I must have hit the refresh button when the computer said that the page could not be loaded.  It ended up sending the message multiple times.  You are not the first to expearience this within the past few days.  Sorry about this.
>Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
>-William-
>
>
>
>> From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:20:39 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS problem with new laptop
>>
>> Gosh, this message came through three times! I hope the sender did not
>> actually send it that much.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wmodnl wmodnl
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:34 PM
>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS problem with new laptop
>>
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>> > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:33:32 -0500
>> > From: todd.orlowski at yahoo.co.uk
>> > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] JAWS problem with new laptop
>> >
>> > uninstall jaws and reinstall.
>> > if you have installed jaws on more than four machines call Fs with your
>> > jaws serial number and they can unlock your activations again
>> > best of luck
>> > Todd
>> > Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android-powered phone
>> >
>> > Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Hello,
>> > >
>> > >I recently got a new laptop running windows 7 64-bit. I set it up and
>> > >everything, and then I installed my JAWS software and everything seemed
>> > >to
>> > >work fine. Suddenly, once I restarted my laptop, it was coming with an
>> > >"error reporting" message and it would not start. So--my laptop boots up,
>> > >and it starts everything but then I, according to the windows built-in
>> > >narrator, get a message that goes like this:
>> > >"Application file for JAWS: this program stopped working. windows can
>> > >check
>> > >online to see about a solution." there were two buttons, "close program"
>> > >and
>> > >"go online for a solution and close program" but I don't know what
>> > >exactly
>> > >is happening with JAWS and my instillation.
>> > >
>> > >Now I have a question: if I ever want to uninstall and reinstall JAWS
>> > >from
>> > >my same installation and activation CD, does that kill my license? Can I
>> > >still enter and activate my license, or does that delete it forever? Do I
>> > >have to get another license? I'm really afraid that my license is lost
>> > >with
>> > >reinstallation and that I'd have to acquire another. It is the latest
>> > >version of JAWS that I'm using. any suggestions are appreciated.
>> > >
>> > >Thanks,
>> > >Humberto
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >Humberto Avila
>> > >Please consider the environment Before Printing this email.
>> > >
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