[nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

Sun Jun 19 01:48:51 UTC 2011

Thanks=20for=20the=20info,=20Mr.=20=20Andrews.
Best,
Josh

sent=20from=20my=20Apex
Email:=20joshkart12 at gmail.com

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20David=20Andrews=20<dandrews at visi.com
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=09
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Sat,=2018=20Jun=202011=2020:45:30=20-0500
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20proposition=20for=20amendment=20to=20constituti=
on

No=20link=20has=20been=20released=20yet.=20=20In=20fact=20there=20has
been=20no=20statement=20as=20to=20whether=20or=20not=20there=20will
be=20streaming=20at=20all.=20=20I=20presume=20there=20will=20be=20but=20don=
't=20know=20for=20
a=20fact.

Dave

At=2003:45=20PM=206/18/2011,=20you=20wrote:
The=20banquet=20is=20on=20a=20Friday,=20July=208th.=20=20And=20I
would=20also=20like=20to=20know=20the=20link,=20since=20I=20can't=20go=20ei=
ther.

Chris

"A=20loss=20of=20sight,=20never=20a=20loss=20of=20vision!"=20(Camp=20Abilit=
ies=20motto)
To=20learn=20more=20about=20Camp=20Abilities=20and=20find=20a
local=20camp=20near=20you,=20just=20click=20on=20this=20link=20to
their=20national=20Web=20site:=20www.campabilities.org.

The=20I=20C.A.N.=20=20Foundation=20helps=20visually=20impaired
youth=20in=20Maryland=20have=20the=20ability=20to
confidently=20say=20"I=20can!"=20How?=20Click=20on=20this=20link
to=20learn=20more=20and=20to=20contribute:=20www.icanfoundation.info.

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-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Serena=20Cucco"=20<serena.c.cucco at gmail.com
To:=20"'National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list'"=20=

<nabs-l at nfbnet..org
Date=20sent:=20Sat,=2018=20Jun=202011=2011:42:40=20-0400
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20proposition=20for=20amendment=20to=20constituti=
on

Speaking=20of=20streaming=20Convention,=20what's=20the=20link=20to=20listen=
=20to=20
it?=20=20I=20can't
go=20this=20year.=20=20Dang=20summer=20courses!=20**hahaha**=20=20Also,=20w=
hat=20week=20
night=20is
the=20banquet?=20=20I'll=20certainly=20listen=20to=20that,=20even=20if=20th=
at's=20all=20I=20
have=20time
to=20listen=20to!

Thanks,
Serena

-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org=20
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On
Behalf=20Of=20Chris=20Nusbaum
Sent:=20Saturday,=20June=2018,=202011=2010:57=20AM
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20proposition=20for=20amendment=20to=20constituti=
on

We=20stream=20it=20so=20people=20who=20can't=20attend=20the=20convention=20=
can=20listen
to=20it=20and=20still=20keep=20up=20to=20date=20on=20all=20the=20action=20t=
hat=20happens
there.=20=20Face=20it,=20some=20people=20just=20can't=20go=20to=20conventio=
n.=20=20You
know,=20that=20whole=20thing=20about=2070=20percent=20of=20blind=20people=20=
being
unemployed.=20=20Employment=20generates=20income,=20and=20sadly,=20a=20lot=
=20of
blind=20people=20currently=20don't=20have=20it.

Chris

"A=20loss=20of=20sight,=20never=20a=20loss=20of=20vision!"=20(Camp=20Abilit=
ies=20motto)
To=20learn=20more=20about=20Camp=20Abilities=20and=20find=20a=20local=20cam=
p=20near
you,=20just=20click=20on=20this=20link=20to=20their=20national=20Web=20site=
:
www.campabilities.org.

The=20I=20C.A.N.=20=20Foundation=20helps=20visually=20impaired=20youth=20in=

Maryland=20have=20the=20ability=20to=20confidently=20say=20"I=20can!"=20How=
?=20Click
on=20this=20link=20to=20learn=20more=20and=20to=20contribute:
www.icanfoundation.info.

Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote

-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Jorge=20Paez=20<computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Fri,=2017=20Jun=202011=2022:05:29=20-0400
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20proposition=20for=20amendment=20to=20constituti=
on

Well,
if=20the=20real=20deal=20is=20being=20at=20convention=20then=20why=20stream=
=20it?

On=20Jun=2017,=202011,=20at=209:52=20PM,=20T.=20=20Joseph=20Carter=20wrote:=

Right,=20and=20I=20will=20be=20sure=20to=20cast=20my=20vote=20for=20as=20ma=
ny=20people
whose=20names=20I=20happen=20to=20know=20as=20possible.=20=20No,=20you=92d=
=20need=20to
manage=20passwords=20and=20data=20security.=20=20There=20would=20be=20issue=
s=20such
as=20validity=20and=20integrity=20of=20the=20ballot=20(who=92s=20observing=
=20to
ensure=20the=20votes=20are=20not=20tampered=20with,=20etc.?)

What=20you=20are=20looking=20for=20is=20not=20proxy=20voting,=20but=20to=20=
change=20NABS
elections=20from=20being=20held=20at=20convention=20to=20being=20held=20onl=
ine.
That=20means=20the=20elections=20process=20would=20need=20to=20happen=20(al=
ong=20with
any=20runoffs=20and=20revotes)=20prior=20to=20convention=20so=20that=20the=
=20newly
elected=20board=20members=20can=20meet=20with=20the=20old=20and=20arrange=20=
the
transition=20plan=20as=20best=20they=20can.

If=20elections,=20why=20not=20resolutions=20and=20other=20business=20as=20w=
ell?
Why=20would=20we=20then=20send=20delegates=20from=20the=20states=20to=20vot=
e?=20=20This
would=20be=20a=20fundamental=20change=20to=20the=20organization=20as=20a=20=
whole,=20and
one=20that=20could=20be=20exploited=20by=20those=20who=20have=20an=20axe=20=
to=20grind
against=20the=20NFB.=20=20Without=20becoming=20too=20confrontational,=20suf=
fice
it=20to=20say=20that=20such=20individuals=20exist.

It=20would=20also=20degrade=20our=20national=20convention=20from=20a
policy-making=20body=20to=20the=20status=20of=20a=20trade=20show=20for=20bl=
ind=20ghetto
tech.=20=20I=92m=20not=20sure=20you=92re=20going=20to=20find=20support=20fo=
r=20that=20amongst
Federationists=20at=20large=97particularly=20since=20in=20order=20to=20do=20=
so=20you
must=20first=20convince=20those=20Federationists=20who=20will=20be=20attend=
ing
Convention=20because=20it=20is=20a=20policy-making=20body=20they=20wish=20t=
o=20be
part=20of=20that=20it=20should=20no=20longer=20be=20so.

You=20would=20not=20have=20my=20support,=20even=20though=20I=20have=20only=
=20been=20to
two=20non-consecutive=20conventions=20now,=20because=20I=20wouldn=92t=20wan=
t=20to
see=20what=20naturally=20comes=20from=20the=20application=20of=20your=20sug=
gestion.
To=20me,=20going=20to=20convention=20is=20ABOUT=20something,=20whether=20I=
=20can
attend=20or=20not.=20=20I=20for=20one=20am=20not=20willing=20to=20give=20th=
at=20up.

That=20said,=20though=20I=20may=20attend=20the=20NABS=20meeting=20if=20I=20=
am=20not
needed=20elsewhere,=20I=20will=20not=20be=20voting.=20=20I=20am=20not=20a=20=
student
anymore,=20as=20I=20said,=20and=20NABS=20policy=20should=20IMO=20be=20set=20=
by=20those
who=20are.

Joseph

On=20Fri,=20Jun=2017,=202011=20at=2012:54:10PM=20-0400,=20Jorge=20Paez=20wr=
ote:
So=20would=20I.

And,=20security=20measures=20such=20as=20comparing=20someone's=20name=20aga=
inst
a=20database=20can=20easily=20be=20developed=20as=20well=20with=20some=20ph=
p.

On=20Jun=2017,=202011,=20at=2012:41=20PM,=20Ignasi=20Cambra=20wrote:

A=20web=20based=20system=20could=20easily=20be=20developed,=20that's=20for=
=20sure.
I=20would=20be=20willing=20to=20help=20with=20that.
On=20Jun=2017,=202011,=20at=2012:32=20PM,=20Jorge=20Paez=20wrote:

Marsha:
This=20is=20only=20theory=20to=20be=20aprooved--the=20web=20team=20would=20=
have=20to
be=20in=20charge=20of=20developing=20some=20authentication=20method.
I'm=20sure=20we=20could=20make=20sure=20only=20absent=20people=20vote=20in=
=20some=20way
such=20as=20having=20to=20enter=20with=20your=20name,=20and=20the=20site
disqualifying=20you=20when=20you=20enter=20your=20vote=20if=20it=20sees=20t=
hat=20you're
present.
This=20is=20where=20the=20database=20of=20contact=20information=20would=20c=
ome=20in
handy.

On=20Jun=2017,=202011,=20at=2012:07=20PM,=20Marsha=20Drenth=20wrote:

In=20theory=20this=20is=20a=20good=20suggestion.=20=20But=20lets=20be=20rea=
listic
here.=20=20This=20would
be=20a=20complicated=20process=20of=20tallying=20the=20votes.=20=20If=20the=
=20students
were=20to=20do
this,=20the=20general=20convention=20would=20want=20this=20too.=20=20Its=20=
sad=20that
those=20who
can't=20be=20there=20can't=20vote,=20but=20that=20is=20where=20those=20who=
=20can't=20be
there,
should=20get=20involved=20to=20elect=20those=20who=20they=20feel=20would=20=
do=20the
best=20job
possible.

Say=20if=20you=20were=20to=20have=20a=20online=20way=20to=20take=20votes,=20=
how=20are=20you
going=20to
distinguish=20from=20those=20who=20are=20really=20not=20going=20to=20those=
=20who=20are
going=20to
convention=20but=20who=20want=20to=20vote=20and=20add=20votes=20to=20a=20pa=
rticular
person
running.

Now=20correct=20me=20someone=20if=20I=20am=20wrong,=20isn't=20it=20true=20t=
hat=20you=20can
run,=20not
necessarily=20be=20there,=20and=20be=20elected?=20Or=20must=20you=20be=20pr=
esent?
Different
divisions=20do=20this=20differently.

Marsha

-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On=20Behalf
Of=20Jorge=20Paez
Sent:=20Friday,=20June=2017,=202011=2011:57=20AM
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20proposition=20for=20amendment=20to=20constitution

Hello=20all:
I=20want=20to=20propose=20the=20following=20amendment=20to=20the=20constitu=
tion,
to=20article
IV.

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Voting

Due=20to=20the=20fact=20that=20there=20are=20people=20who=20will=20not=20be=
=20present=20at
the
convention=20due=20to=20issues=20beyond=20the=20membership's=20control,=20b=
ut
who=20have=20paid
dues=20and=20do=20therefore,=20retain=20their=20right=20to=20vote,=20the=20=
NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION
OF=20THE=20BLIND=20shall=20henceforth=20recognize
these=20members=20by=20allowing=20them=20to=20vote,=20in=20such=20methods=20=
as=20are
legal=20and=20of
good=20practice,=20in=20all=20elections=20pertaining=20to=20the=20business=
=20of
this
organization.

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end=20of=20amendment.

The=20defense=20I=20put=20forth=20for=20this=20amendment=20is=20simple:=20i=
f=20we=20are
to=20be=20a
democratic=20organization,=20and=20if=20we=20are=20truly=20the=20"voice=20o=
f=20the
Nation's
blind"=20we=20must=20realize=20there=20are=20students=20who=20will=20not=20=
be=20able
to=20attend=20but
who=20have=20paid=20dues,=20and=20these=20students=20must=20be=20recognized=
=20and
given=20the
chance=20to=20vote=20in=20elections.=20=20If=20not,=20we=20are=20violating=
=20our=20own
constitution
as=20article=20IV=20is=20doing=20as=20of=20this=20writing,=20by=20eliminati=
ng=20those
members=20who
cannot=20attend=20convention,=20and=20therein=20setting=20only=20a=20certai=
n
portion=20of=20the
student=20membership=20to=20vote.

Jorge

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