[nabs-l] window eyes commands

[Steve Jacobson]

Ashley,

Some of the functioning of Window-Eyes and JFW are very similar and some are somewhat different.  It is really hard to give you a comprehensive list of 
commands, and it really makes more sense for you to explain more how you will be using Window-Eyes on the job.  The biggest difference for most people is 
that Window-eyes does not toggle the cursor keys between JAWS and APPLICATION functions as JFW does.  This is a feature that those of us who use 
Window-Eyes tend to like and JFW users tend to hate.  I never understood why, if we have two sets of navigation keys, why JFW insists on toggling both 
sets between JAWS cursor and the Windows cursor.  Anyway, with Window-Eyes, the Numeric keypad controls the equivelent of the JAWS cursor all the 
time and the middle set of navigation keys remains connected to the application.

What would probably be worth your time is to download the latest Window-Eyes demo and start experimenting with it and reading it's manual.  While both 
programs have many of the same capabilities, they don't both assign them to keys.  You could find a JFW command that is not assigned in Window-Eyes 
and you may need to assign it.  I think Window-Eyes still has a JFW configuration, but I frankly think that is a waste of time unless you are only going to use 
Window-Eyes on the job for a short period of time.  You are better off using the Window-Eyes default layout so that the manual makes sense and so you 
can get help from others.  However, I think most of the keys you mentioned do have equivelents.

I am a Window-Eyes user and would be glad to answer more questions, but some questions and answers will depend upon exactly which applications you 
are using.  to answer some of your specific questions, one needs to know if you mean with the JAWS Cursor active or the Applications cursor?  Anyway, 
changing screen readers or learning to use two different ones is not an easy task.  We all like the one we know the best or learned first the best, but if you 
are required to use Window-Eyes you'll have to do what you can to put your natural biases asside since they won't help you learn.  Both screen readers are 
good, but they are different, and they tend to have different strengths.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson
     
On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 23:23:28 -0700, Carly Mihalakis wrote:




>Hi, Ashley,

>         I too, use WE but do not readily remember specific reading 
>commands. Instead, I usually simply use the arrow keys and 
>controlleft/down left/right, which are Windows commands and are 
>therefore, somewhat universal.
>Others may have some more sound advice for Ashley, like something 
>specific to navigate within WE.
>Sorry I am not more helpful, but reverting to basics may save you.  . 
>22 PM 6/1/2011, you wrote:
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I am getting a temporary job and I was informed I have to use 
>>Window  Eyes, WE, and I am used to jaws.
>>At least I can change it to elloquence.
>>
>>So does anyone have a list of commands for it, the reading commands I mean.
>>I need commands for things like read to end of screen; in jaws that 
>>is insert down arrow. Also read next/previous word, current line, 
>>current sentence, next/previous paragraph would help.
>>
>>How are the internet commands different? I know that you move 
>>through menus with the same arrows and hit enter on your menu 
>>choice, just as with jaws; that is a keyboard thing, not a screen reader thing.
>>
>>I heard you still have to turn on forms mode in We, where as jaws 
>>you do not. Are the hot keys the same, or are some the same.
>>Some of the hot keys for internet for jaws are:
>>insert f7: links list.
>>insert f5: headings list
>>Insert f9: frames list
>>H: headings
>>C: combo box
>>R: radio button
>>B: button
>>In jaws you can also custom label links and I think that command is
>>Control insert tab.
>>
>>Thanks for any tips.
>>Ashley
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