[nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Mon Jun 13 20:48:54 UTC 2011


Ok.  By the way, did anyone read the article itself or did they 
just read my email?

 Chris

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--- Sent from my BrailleNote

 ----- Original Message -----
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list	
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 21:30:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others

I have an open mind and I don't need you lecturing to me.  My 
point
was that such a discussion isn't the purpose of this list.

Dave

At 06:16 PM 6/9/2011, you wrote:
David:
With all due respect, can we not have an open mind?

After all: Chris isn't doing any obvious harm by presenting an
opposing view is he?
Is he telling us to join the ACB?
No, and I take that as harmless.

Why silence what could possibly be a question that will be 
brought
up by future leaders anyway?

Sooner or later we'll have to debate not the marrits or not of 
the
organization, but what we stand fore because as the world 
evolves,
so must our stance on issues--we can never stand solid by one 
policy
and say we will follow it until we die for if the target changes,
then so must our aim--and we should be open to anything and 
consider
all as long as our principles of blind independence and first 
class
citizenship are not at risk.

You realize its not the ACB that you oppose, its their ideas, and
are we not open to discussion on this?
Just because we talk doesn't mean we do,
are you by any stretch of the imagination suggesting that there 
is a
hidden threat in reading a politically contrary paper?

I agree--if Chris were to do it every month I would see why,
but just once won't hurt anyone will it?


Jorge


On Jun 9, 2011, at 4:42 PM, David Andrews wrote:

 Chris:

 While what you are trying to do is "well meaning," it is
 inappropriate, and not in step with the purpose of this list.  
This
 is not a debating society, and nor are we a vehicle to 
distribute
 the Braille Forum.  This list is for NABS and blind students, 
not
 to discuss the founding of the ACB, or debate how it is 
different from the NFB.

 David Andrews, List Owner



 At 02:55 PM 6/9/2011, you wrote:
 Hmm...  that's interesting.  Well, I went out of my comfort zone
 a little and signed up to get both the Monitor and the Braille
 Forum (ACB's magazine) by email.  I will attach this month's
 Braille Forum.  Although a lot of it has to do with the 
lagistics
 of their convention in Reno, please especially take time to read
 the President's Message column from Mitch Pomerantz.  You'll see
 there what he says about the NFB and Dr.  TenBroek and Dr.
 Jernigan, while comparing the ACB's founding to that of the
 United States.  What do you all think of this? Am I stirring the
 pot too much? Oh heck...  another little debate won't hurt.  * 
Smile!


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