[nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

[Darian Smith]

George,
  can you explain a little more to me, how you believe  the
constitution is in violation of student rights?

On 6/17/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
> I understand,
> which is why that particular article violates our membership rights.
> That is exactly what I'm trying to get fixed.
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Darian Smith wrote:
>
>> George,
>> in the constitution, the language states  clearly that there is to be
>> no "proxy voting".  I have pasted the language for your review.
>> "Officers and board members   shall be elected
>> by a majority vote of the members of this Association present and
>> voting. All officers and board   members must be in school for one
>> year following their
>>  election. There shall be no proxy votes."
>>
>>
>> As the constitution of this division, and of our national  body
>> prohibits  this,  we are indeed not in violation of our constitution.
>>  The constitution odes  provide for an   amendment to be  submitted
>> for  consideration and review by the  membership.
>> The text of  this provision follows:"This constitution may be amended
>> at any regular meeting of the   Association by an affirmative vote of
>> two-thirds of the active   members present and voting,
>> provided the amendment has ben   submitted to the President in
>> writing, at least one day in   advance of the regular meeting.
>> "
>>
>> Marsha,
>>  Nothing prohibits a student from runningin an election if they are
>> not present- in fact this has  happen before.  It's really a matter of
>> if the people present  believe the   individual seeking an office
>> would  end up working  out better  for the organization than the
>> people who are  currently in the room and seeking that same office.
>>
>> I hope this was helpful,
>>  darian
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/11, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In theory this is a good suggestion. But lets be realistic here. This
>>> would
>>> be a complicated process of tallying the votes. If the students were to
>>> do
>>> this, the general convention would want this too. Its sad that those who
>>> can't be there can't vote, but that is where those who can't be there,
>>> should get involved to elect those who they feel would do the best job
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> Say if you were to have a online way to take votes, how are you going to
>>> distinguish from those who are really not going to those who are going to
>>> convention but who want to vote and add votes to a particular person
>>> running.
>>>
>>> Now correct me someone if I am wrong, isn't it true that you can run, not
>>> necessarily be there, and be elected? Or must you be present? Different
>>> divisions do this differently.
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Jorge Paez
>>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:57 AM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>>>
>>> Hello all:
>>> I want to propose the following amendment to the constitution, to article
>>> IV.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>> Voting
>>>
>>>
>>> Due to the fact that there are people who will not be present at the
>>> convention due to issues beyond the membership's control, but who have
>>> paid
>>> dues and do therefore, retain their right to vote, the NATIONAL
>>> ASSOCIATION
>>> OF THE BLIND shall henceforth recognize
>>> these members by allowing them to vote, in such methods as are legal and
>>> of
>>> good practice, in all elections pertaining to the business of this
>>> organization.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>> end of amendment.
>>>
>>> The defense I put forth for this amendment is simple: if we are to be a
>>> democratic organization, and if we are truly the "voice of the Nation's
>>> blind" we must realize there are students who will not be able to attend
>>> but
>>> who have paid dues, and these students must be recognized and given the
>>> chance to vote in elections. If not, we are violating our own
>>> constitution
>>> as article IV is doing as of this writing, by eliminating those members
>>> who
>>> cannot attend convention, and therein setting only a certain portion of
>>> the
>>> student membership to vote.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jorge
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>>
>> --
>> Darian Smith
>>
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>>
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Darian Smith

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