[nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

Fri Jun 17 17:16:44 UTC 2011

but nothing says, that you must pay dues to be a member of nabs.
you must pay dues to vote, yes, but there is much more to being a
member of nabs (or any other student division or of the  federation)
then to vote.

On 6/17/11, Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Firstly,  I personally like that  all of the people who arein the room
> at the time of the meeting, and pay their five dollars can vote.  What
> would happen if we change this?  would nobody show up?  I think it's
>  a good thing that the peole in the room get to vote for the people
> who represent them.  If it matters to you who you elect, and if it
> matters to you that people elect you, the idea of everyone voting and
> running be in the same room is a big thing for me.
>
> On 6/17/11, Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> George,
>>   can you explain a little more to me, how you believe  the
>> constitution is in violation of student rights?
>>
>> On 6/17/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I understand,
>>> which is why that particular article violates our membership rights.
>>> That is exactly what I'm trying to get fixed.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Darian Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> George,
>>>> in the constitution, the language states  clearly that there is to be
>>>> no "proxy voting".  I have pasted the language for your review.
>>>> "Officers and board members   shall be elected
>>>> by a majority vote of the members of this Association present and
>>>> voting. All officers and board   members must be in school for one
>>>> year following their
>>>>  election. There shall be no proxy votes."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As the constitution of this division, and of our national  body
>>>> prohibits  this,  we are indeed not in violation of our constitution.
>>>>  The constitution odes  provide for an   amendment to be  submitted
>>>> for  consideration and review by the  membership.
>>>> The text of  this provision follows:"This constitution may be amended
>>>> at any regular meeting of the   Association by an affirmative vote of
>>>> two-thirds of the active   members present and voting,
>>>> provided the amendment has ben   submitted to the President in
>>>> writing, at least one day in   advance of the regular meeting.
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> Marsha,
>>>>  Nothing prohibits a student from runningin an election if they are
>>>> not present- in fact this has  happen before.  It's really a matter of
>>>> if the people present  believe the   individual seeking an office
>>>> would  end up working  out better  for the organization than the
>>>> people who are  currently in the room and seeking that same office.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this was helpful,
>>>>  darian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/17/11, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In theory this is a good suggestion. But lets be realistic here. This
>>>>> would
>>>>> be a complicated process of tallying the votes. If the students were
>>>>> to
>>>>> do
>>>>> this, the general convention would want this too. Its sad that those
>>>>> who
>>>>> can't be there can't vote, but that is where those who can't be there,
>>>>> should get involved to elect those who they feel would do the best job
>>>>> possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Say if you were to have a online way to take votes, how are you going
>>>>> to
>>>>> distinguish from those who are really not going to those who are going
>>>>> to
>>>>> convention but who want to vote and add votes to a particular person
>>>>> running.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now correct me someone if I am wrong, isn't it true that you can run,
>>>>> not
>>>>> necessarily be there, and be elected? Or must you be present?
>>>>> Different
>>>>> divisions do this differently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Jorge Paez
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:57 AM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all:
>>>>> I want to propose the following amendment to the constitution, to
>>>>> article
>>>>> IV.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Voting
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Due to the fact that there are people who will not be present at the
>>>>> convention due to issues beyond the membership's control, but who have
>>>>> paid
>>>>> dues and do therefore, retain their right to vote, the NATIONAL
>>>>> ASSOCIATION
>>>>> OF THE BLIND shall henceforth recognize
>>>>> these members by allowing them to vote, in such methods as are legal
>>>>> and
>>>>> of
>>>>> good practice, in all elections pertaining to the business of this
>>>>> organization.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> end of amendment.
>>>>>
>>>>> The defense I put forth for this amendment is simple: if we are to be
>>>>> a
>>>>> democratic organization, and if we are truly the "voice of the
>>>>> Nation's
>>>>> blind" we must realize there are students who will not be able to
>>>>> attend
>>>>> but
>>>>> who have paid dues, and these students must be recognized and given
>>>>> the
>>>>> chance to vote in elections. If not, we are violating our own
>>>>> constitution
>>>>> as article IV is doing as of this writing, by eliminating those
>>>>> members
>>>>> who
>>>>> cannot attend convention, and therein setting only a certain portion
>>>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>> student membership to vote.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jorge
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Darian Smith
>>>>
>>>> “My secret?  See it, and stay focused on it.”
>>>>
>>>> — Shaquille O'Neal
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>> --
>> Darian Smith
>>
>> “My secret?  See it, and stay focused on it.”
>>
>> — Shaquille O'Neal
>>
>
>
> --
> Darian Smith
>
> “My secret?  See it, and stay focused on it.”
>
> — Shaquille O'Neal
>

-- 
Darian Smith

“My secret?  See it, and stay focused on it.”

— Shaquille O'Neal