[nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

Fri Jun 17 22:38:33 UTC 2011

my mistake,
I meant NATIONAL ASSOSIATION OF BLIND STUENTS.
That was my mistake.

On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Darian Smith wrote:

> Well, now that I looked at  it  and thought about it,  George's
> amendment  called for  the National Federation of the Blind, not the
> National Association of Blind Students to  adopt this voting practice.
> If this amendment is something one would like to see in our  national
> constitution, it would not go  the nabs president, as the amendment is
> no longer pertaining to nabs. (at least not in how it was written).
> One thing to keep in mind is that our  national convention is  one
> big business meeting, as such the business of the organization has
> been and is done in person.  I believe that this should be kept
> intact.  otherwise, why have a  convention to carry out business?
>  Darian
> 
> 
> On 6/17/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Marsha,
>> 
>> Let's go back to absenttee ballots again.  You say that "this
>> would be a complicated process of tallying the votes." Well, the
>> local Boards of Elections would have to essentially do the same
>> thing with absentee ballots.  How would they know that multiple
>> votes aren't being added by one person? The ballots are in
>> hardcopy print.  How could this work for NABS? Hardcopy Braille
>> and large print! It seems simple to me.  And, if the whole
>> convention would want this, I say let them.  That is, if the
>> board votes in favor of the proposed amendment if said proposed
>> amendment were proposed to be added to the NFB constitution.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
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>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:07:35 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>> 
>> In theory this is a good suggestion.  But lets be realistic here.
>> This would
>> be a complicated process of tallying the votes.  If the students
>> were to do
>> this, the general convention would want this too.  Its sad that
>> those who
>> can't be there can't vote, but that is where those who can't be
>> there,
>> should get involved to elect those who they feel would do the
>> best job
>> possible.
>> 
>> Say if you were to have a online way to take votes, how are you
>> going to
>> distinguish from those who are really not going to those who are
>> going to
>> convention but who want to vote and add votes to a particular
>> person
>> running.
>> 
>> Now correct me someone if I am wrong, isn't it true that you can
>> run, not
>> necessarily be there, and be elected? Or must you be present?
>> Different
>> divisions do this differently.
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Jorge Paez
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:57 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>> 
>> Hello all:
>> I want to propose the following amendment to the constitution, to
>> article
>> IV.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> 
>> Voting
>> 
>> 
>> Due to the fact that there are people who will not be present at
>> the
>> convention due to issues beyond the membership's control, but who
>> have paid
>> dues and do therefore, retain their right to vote, the NATIONAL
>> ASSOCIATION
>> OF THE BLIND shall henceforth recognize
>> these members by allowing them to vote, in such methods as are
>> legal and of
>> good practice, in all elections pertaining to the business of
>> this
>> organization.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> 
>> end of amendment.
>> 
>> The defense I put forth for this amendment is simple: if we are
>> to be a
>> democratic organization, and if we are truly the "voice of the
>> Nation's
>> blind" we must realize there are students who will not be able to
>> attend but
>> who have paid dues, and these students must be recognized and
>> given the
>> chance to vote in elections.  If not, we are violating our own
>> constitution
>> as article IV is doing as of this writing, by eliminating those
>> members who
>> cannot attend convention, and therein setting only a certain
>> portion of the
>> student membership to vote.
>> 
>> 
>> Jorge
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