[nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

Darian Smith dsmithnfb at gmail.com
Fri Jun 17 22:43:55 UTC 2011


either way... I kind of doubt  you'll see that passed- that's a part
of all of our  constitutions, on every level of the organization
and I imagine it's been so for a reason.

On 6/17/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
> my mistake,
> I meant NATIONAL ASSOSIATION OF BLIND STUENTS.
> That was my mistake.
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Darian Smith wrote:
>
>> Well, now that I looked at  it  and thought about it,  George's
>> amendment  called for  the National Federation of the Blind, not the
>> National Association of Blind Students to  adopt this voting practice.
>> If this amendment is something one would like to see in our  national
>> constitution, it would not go  the nabs president, as the amendment is
>> no longer pertaining to nabs. (at least not in how it was written).
>> One thing to keep in mind is that our  national convention is  one
>> big business meeting, as such the business of the organization has
>> been and is done in person.  I believe that this should be kept
>> intact.  otherwise, why have a  convention to carry out business?
>>  Darian
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Marsha,
>>>
>>> Let's go back to absenttee ballots again.  You say that "this
>>> would be a complicated process of tallying the votes." Well, the
>>> local Boards of Elections would have to essentially do the same
>>> thing with absentee ballots.  How would they know that multiple
>>> votes aren't being added by one person? The ballots are in
>>> hardcopy print.  How could this work for NABS? Hardcopy Braille
>>> and large print! It seems simple to me.  And, if the whole
>>> convention would want this, I say let them.  That is, if the
>>> board votes in favor of the proposed amendment if said proposed
>>> amendment were proposed to be added to the NFB constitution.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>>> To learn more about Camp Abilities and find a local camp near
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:07:35 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>>>
>>> In theory this is a good suggestion.  But lets be realistic here.
>>> This would
>>> be a complicated process of tallying the votes.  If the students
>>> were to do
>>> this, the general convention would want this too.  Its sad that
>>> those who
>>> can't be there can't vote, but that is where those who can't be
>>> there,
>>> should get involved to elect those who they feel would do the
>>> best job
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> Say if you were to have a online way to take votes, how are you
>>> going to
>>> distinguish from those who are really not going to those who are
>>> going to
>>> convention but who want to vote and add votes to a particular
>>> person
>>> running.
>>>
>>> Now correct me someone if I am wrong, isn't it true that you can
>>> run, not
>>> necessarily be there, and be elected? Or must you be present?
>>> Different
>>> divisions do this differently.
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Jorge Paez
>>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:57 AM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>>>
>>> Hello all:
>>> I want to propose the following amendment to the constitution, to
>>> article
>>> IV.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>> Voting
>>>
>>>
>>> Due to the fact that there are people who will not be present at
>>> the
>>> convention due to issues beyond the membership's control, but who
>>> have paid
>>> dues and do therefore, retain their right to vote, the NATIONAL
>>> ASSOCIATION
>>> OF THE BLIND shall henceforth recognize
>>> these members by allowing them to vote, in such methods as are
>>> legal and of
>>> good practice, in all elections pertaining to the business of
>>> this
>>> organization.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>> end of amendment.
>>>
>>> The defense I put forth for this amendment is simple: if we are
>>> to be a
>>> democratic organization, and if we are truly the "voice of the
>>> Nation's
>>> blind" we must realize there are students who will not be able to
>>> attend but
>>> who have paid dues, and these students must be recognized and
>>> given the
>>> chance to vote in elections.  If not, we are violating our own
>>> constitution
>>> as article IV is doing as of this writing, by eliminating those
>>> members who
>>> cannot attend convention, and therein setting only a certain
>>> portion of the
>>> student membership to vote.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jorge
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>> --
>> Darian Smith
>>
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>>
>> — Shaquille O'Neal
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