[nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Sat Jun 18 01:03:54 UTC 2011


What?
Ms Silverman isn't running again?
I hope someone I know, gets elected.
I don't know very many people on here personally, but I hope the right
person gets the job.
Just a question, who all is running for NABS president?
Please send me the list of candidates, off list.
Thanks, Joshua

On 6/17/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree, Darian.  After national convention, there will be a
> whole new board elected, including a new NABS president, as
> Arielle has already stated on this list that she will not be
> running for reelection.  So, Jorge, I would advise you to wait
> until after National Convention and propose this to the new board
> and the new president.  That way, you won't have to worry about
> rushing it through the process before the new board is elected.
> Best of luck! Please keep us posted on how it goes!
>
>  Chris
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>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:13:20 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>
> Hi George,
>
>  I think you bring up some interesting points.
>  in the end,  I woudl strongly advise to bring this concern
> directly
> to the board- in this case the president of  nabs;  Arielle
> Silverman.
>   Her E-mail is  nabs.president at gmail.com
>   best of luck!
>
> On 6/17/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
>  article IV states:
>
>  "There will be no proxy votes"
>
>  However, if we have paid our dues we should be able to vote.
> Even if we
>  aren't able to go to convention.
>
>  That's why I'm proposing the amendment below, which would
> strengthen the
>  underlying organization by allowing those unable to attend the
> convention to
>  vote, while restricting this to only members who pay the $5
> either online
>  before the vote or who have been registered in the database as
> contributing
>  members.
>
>
>  So the idea is that when you vote online, you're name or address
> or
>  something would be put threw a database.  If you've paid, the
> computer will
>  validate the vote, if not, it'll simply ask you to pay the $5,
> and the
>  language I'm proposing would allow for such an addition to our
> system.
>
>
>
>
>  On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Tina Thomas wrote:
>
>  Hello Jorge- Can you clarify the article in the student's
> constitution
>  that
>  you feel violates membership rights.
>  Tina
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf
>  Of Jorge Paez
>  Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 9:53 AM
>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>
>  I understand,
>  which is why that particular article violates our membership
> rights.
>  That is exactly what I'm trying to get fixed.
>
>
>  On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Darian Smith wrote:
>
>  George,
>  in the constitution, the language states  clearly that there is
> to be
>  no "proxy voting".  I have pasted the language for your review.
>  "Officers and board members   shall be elected
>  by a majority vote of the members of this Association present
> and
>  voting.  All officers and board   members must be in school for
> one
>  year following their
>  election.  There shall be no proxy votes."
>
>
>  As the constitution of this division, and of our national  body
>  prohibits  this,  we are indeed not in violation of our
> constitution.
>  The constitution odes  provide for an   amendment to be
> submitted
>  for  consideration and review by the  membership.
>  The text of  this provision follows:"This constitution may be
> amended
>  at any regular meeting of the   Association by an affirmative
> vote of
>  two-thirds of the active   members present and voting,
>  provided the amendment has ben   submitted to the President in
>  writing, at least one day in   advance of the regular meeting.
>  "
>
>  Marsha,
>  Nothing prohibits a student from runningin an election if they
> are
>  not present- in fact this has  happen before.  It's really a
> matter of
>  if the people present  believe the   individual seeking an
> office
>  would  end up working  out better  for the organization than the
>  people who are  currently in the room and seeking that same
> office.
>
>  I hope this was helpful,
>  darian
>
>
>
>  On 6/17/11, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>  In theory this is a good suggestion.  But lets be realistic
> here.  This
>  would
>  be a complicated process of tallying the votes.  If the students
> were to
>  do
>  this, the general convention would want this too.  Its sad that
> those who
>  can't be there can't vote, but that is where those who can't be
> there,
>  should get involved to elect those who they feel would do the
> best job
>  possible.
>
>  Say if you were to have a online way to take votes, how are you
> going to
>  distinguish from those who are really not going to those who are
> going
>  to
>  convention but who want to vote and add votes to a particular
> person
>  running.
>
>  Now correct me someone if I am wrong, isn't it true that you can
> run,
>  not
>  necessarily be there, and be elected? Or must you be present?
> Different
>  divisions do this differently.
>
>  Marsha
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>  Behalf
>  Of Jorge Paez
>  Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:57 AM
>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  Subject: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>
>  Hello all:
>  I want to propose the following amendment to the constitution,
> to
>  article
>  IV.
>
>
>
>
>  ---
>
>
>  Voting
>
>
>  Due to the fact that there are people who will not be present at
> the
>  convention due to issues beyond the membership's control, but
> who have
>  paid
>  dues and do therefore, retain their right to vote, the NATIONAL
>  ASSOCIATION
>  OF THE BLIND shall henceforth recognize
>  these members by allowing them to vote, in such methods as are
> legal and
>  of
>  good practice, in all elections pertaining to the business of
> this
>  organization.
>
>
>
>  ---
>
>
>  end of amendment.
>
>  The defense I put forth for this amendment is simple: if we are
> to be a
>  democratic organization, and if we are truly the "voice of the
> Nation's
>  blind" we must realize there are students who will not be able
> to attend
>  but
>  who have paid dues, and these students must be recognized and
> given the
>  chance to vote in elections.  If not, we are violating our own
>  constitution
>  as article IV is doing as of this writing, by eliminating those
> members
>  who
>  cannot attend convention, and therein setting only a certain
> portion of
>  the
>  student membership to vote.
>
>
>  Jorge
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