[nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
Joshua Lester
jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Sat Jun 18 01:03:54 UTC 2011
What?
Ms Silverman isn't running again?
I hope someone I know, gets elected.
I don't know very many people on here personally, but I hope the right
person gets the job.
Just a question, who all is running for NABS president?
Please send me the list of candidates, off list.
Thanks, Joshua
On 6/17/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree, Darian. After national convention, there will be a
> whole new board elected, including a new NABS president, as
> Arielle has already stated on this list that she will not be
> running for reelection. So, Jorge, I would advise you to wait
> until after National Convention and propose this to the new board
> and the new president. That way, you won't have to worry about
> rushing it through the process before the new board is elected.
> Best of luck! Please keep us posted on how it goes!
>
> Chris
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:13:20 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>
> Hi George,
>
> I think you bring up some interesting points.
> in the end, I woudl strongly advise to bring this concern
> directly
> to the board- in this case the president of nabs; Arielle
> Silverman.
> Her E-mail is nabs.president at gmail.com
> best of luck!
>
> On 6/17/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
> article IV states:
>
> "There will be no proxy votes"
>
> However, if we have paid our dues we should be able to vote.
> Even if we
> aren't able to go to convention.
>
> That's why I'm proposing the amendment below, which would
> strengthen the
> underlying organization by allowing those unable to attend the
> convention to
> vote, while restricting this to only members who pay the $5
> either online
> before the vote or who have been registered in the database as
> contributing
> members.
>
>
> So the idea is that when you vote online, you're name or address
> or
> something would be put threw a database. If you've paid, the
> computer will
> validate the vote, if not, it'll simply ask you to pay the $5,
> and the
> language I'm proposing would allow for such an addition to our
> system.
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Tina Thomas wrote:
>
> Hello Jorge- Can you clarify the article in the student's
> constitution
> that
> you feel violates membership rights.
> Tina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Jorge Paez
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 9:53 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>
> I understand,
> which is why that particular article violates our membership
> rights.
> That is exactly what I'm trying to get fixed.
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Darian Smith wrote:
>
> George,
> in the constitution, the language states clearly that there is
> to be
> no "proxy voting". I have pasted the language for your review.
> "Officers and board members shall be elected
> by a majority vote of the members of this Association present
> and
> voting. All officers and board members must be in school for
> one
> year following their
> election. There shall be no proxy votes."
>
>
> As the constitution of this division, and of our national body
> prohibits this, we are indeed not in violation of our
> constitution.
> The constitution odes provide for an amendment to be
> submitted
> for consideration and review by the membership.
> The text of this provision follows:"This constitution may be
> amended
> at any regular meeting of the Association by an affirmative
> vote of
> two-thirds of the active members present and voting,
> provided the amendment has ben submitted to the President in
> writing, at least one day in advance of the regular meeting.
> "
>
> Marsha,
> Nothing prohibits a student from runningin an election if they
> are
> not present- in fact this has happen before. It's really a
> matter of
> if the people present believe the individual seeking an
> office
> would end up working out better for the organization than the
> people who are currently in the room and seeking that same
> office.
>
> I hope this was helpful,
> darian
>
>
>
> On 6/17/11, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
> In theory this is a good suggestion. But lets be realistic
> here. This
> would
> be a complicated process of tallying the votes. If the students
> were to
> do
> this, the general convention would want this too. Its sad that
> those who
> can't be there can't vote, but that is where those who can't be
> there,
> should get involved to elect those who they feel would do the
> best job
> possible.
>
> Say if you were to have a online way to take votes, how are you
> going to
> distinguish from those who are really not going to those who are
> going
> to
> convention but who want to vote and add votes to a particular
> person
> running.
>
> Now correct me someone if I am wrong, isn't it true that you can
> run,
> not
> necessarily be there, and be elected? Or must you be present?
> Different
> divisions do this differently.
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Jorge Paez
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:57 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>
> Hello all:
> I want to propose the following amendment to the constitution,
> to
> article
> IV.
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
>
> Voting
>
>
> Due to the fact that there are people who will not be present at
> the
> convention due to issues beyond the membership's control, but
> who have
> paid
> dues and do therefore, retain their right to vote, the NATIONAL
> ASSOCIATION
> OF THE BLIND shall henceforth recognize
> these members by allowing them to vote, in such methods as are
> legal and
> of
> good practice, in all elections pertaining to the business of
> this
> organization.
>
>
>
> ---
>
>
> end of amendment.
>
> The defense I put forth for this amendment is simple: if we are
> to be a
> democratic organization, and if we are truly the "voice of the
> Nation's
> blind" we must realize there are students who will not be able
> to attend
> but
> who have paid dues, and these students must be recognized and
> given the
> chance to vote in elections. If not, we are violating our own
> constitution
> as article IV is doing as of this writing, by eliminating those
> members
> who
> cannot attend convention, and therein setting only a certain
> portion of
> the
> student membership to vote.
>
>
> Jorge
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