[nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
Darian Smith
dsmithnfb at gmail.com
Sat Jun 18 01:20:35 UTC 2011
Hello all,
I'm going to be done posting after this... I hope.
But, a quick bit about elections:
because anyone can run from the convention floor of the student
meeting (who pays their dues and is a student) there is no defined
list of who is running for president, or any of the offices that were
up for election.
Arielle did send a well-written announcement to the list explaining
that she is stepping down and touching on nabs leadership.
I'm sure that it may be hiding in your inbox, or you can find it in
the nfbnet archives of this list.
On 6/17/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
> What?
> Ms Silverman isn't running again?
> I hope someone I know, gets elected.
> I don't know very many people on here personally, but I hope the right
> person gets the job.
> Just a question, who all is running for NABS president?
> Please send me the list of candidates, off list.
> Thanks, Joshua
>
> On 6/17/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree, Darian. After national convention, there will be a
>> whole new board elected, including a new NABS president, as
>> Arielle has already stated on this list that she will not be
>> running for reelection. So, Jorge, I would advise you to wait
>> until after National Convention and propose this to the new board
>> and the new president. That way, you won't have to worry about
>> rushing it through the process before the new board is elected.
>> Best of luck! Please keep us posted on how it goes!
>>
>> Chris
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:13:20 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> I think you bring up some interesting points.
>> in the end, I woudl strongly advise to bring this concern
>> directly
>> to the board- in this case the president of nabs; Arielle
>> Silverman.
>> Her E-mail is nabs.president at gmail.com
>> best of luck!
>>
>> On 6/17/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
>> article IV states:
>>
>> "There will be no proxy votes"
>>
>> However, if we have paid our dues we should be able to vote.
>> Even if we
>> aren't able to go to convention.
>>
>> That's why I'm proposing the amendment below, which would
>> strengthen the
>> underlying organization by allowing those unable to attend the
>> convention to
>> vote, while restricting this to only members who pay the $5
>> either online
>> before the vote or who have been registered in the database as
>> contributing
>> members.
>>
>>
>> So the idea is that when you vote online, you're name or address
>> or
>> something would be put threw a database. If you've paid, the
>> computer will
>> validate the vote, if not, it'll simply ask you to pay the $5,
>> and the
>> language I'm proposing would allow for such an addition to our
>> system.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Tina Thomas wrote:
>>
>> Hello Jorge- Can you clarify the article in the student's
>> constitution
>> that
>> you feel violates membership rights.
>> Tina
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Jorge Paez
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 9:53 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>>
>> I understand,
>> which is why that particular article violates our membership
>> rights.
>> That is exactly what I'm trying to get fixed.
>>
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Darian Smith wrote:
>>
>> George,
>> in the constitution, the language states clearly that there is
>> to be
>> no "proxy voting". I have pasted the language for your review.
>> "Officers and board members shall be elected
>> by a majority vote of the members of this Association present
>> and
>> voting. All officers and board members must be in school for
>> one
>> year following their
>> election. There shall be no proxy votes."
>>
>>
>> As the constitution of this division, and of our national body
>> prohibits this, we are indeed not in violation of our
>> constitution.
>> The constitution odes provide for an amendment to be
>> submitted
>> for consideration and review by the membership.
>> The text of this provision follows:"This constitution may be
>> amended
>> at any regular meeting of the Association by an affirmative
>> vote of
>> two-thirds of the active members present and voting,
>> provided the amendment has ben submitted to the President in
>> writing, at least one day in advance of the regular meeting.
>> "
>>
>> Marsha,
>> Nothing prohibits a student from runningin an election if they
>> are
>> not present- in fact this has happen before. It's really a
>> matter of
>> if the people present believe the individual seeking an
>> office
>> would end up working out better for the organization than the
>> people who are currently in the room and seeking that same
>> office.
>>
>> I hope this was helpful,
>> darian
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/11, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In theory this is a good suggestion. But lets be realistic
>> here. This
>> would
>> be a complicated process of tallying the votes. If the students
>> were to
>> do
>> this, the general convention would want this too. Its sad that
>> those who
>> can't be there can't vote, but that is where those who can't be
>> there,
>> should get involved to elect those who they feel would do the
>> best job
>> possible.
>>
>> Say if you were to have a online way to take votes, how are you
>> going to
>> distinguish from those who are really not going to those who are
>> going
>> to
>> convention but who want to vote and add votes to a particular
>> person
>> running.
>>
>> Now correct me someone if I am wrong, isn't it true that you can
>> run,
>> not
>> necessarily be there, and be elected? Or must you be present?
>> Different
>> divisions do this differently.
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Jorge Paez
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:57 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution
>>
>> Hello all:
>> I want to propose the following amendment to the constitution,
>> to
>> article
>> IV.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>>
>> Voting
>>
>>
>> Due to the fact that there are people who will not be present at
>> the
>> convention due to issues beyond the membership's control, but
>> who have
>> paid
>> dues and do therefore, retain their right to vote, the NATIONAL
>> ASSOCIATION
>> OF THE BLIND shall henceforth recognize
>> these members by allowing them to vote, in such methods as are
>> legal and
>> of
>> good practice, in all elections pertaining to the business of
>> this
>> organization.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>>
>> end of amendment.
>>
>> The defense I put forth for this amendment is simple: if we are
>> to be a
>> democratic organization, and if we are truly the "voice of the
>> Nation's
>> blind" we must realize there are students who will not be able
>> to attend
>> but
>> who have paid dues, and these students must be recognized and
>> given the
>> chance to vote in elections. If not, we are violating our own
>> constitution
>> as article IV is doing as of this writing, by eliminating those
>> members
>> who
>> cannot attend convention, and therein setting only a certain
>> portion of
>> the
>> student membership to vote.
>>
>>
>> Jorge
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