[nabs-l] Attending Convention

Sun Jun 19 22:26:52 UTC 2011

Hmm, I am sure that is always a possibility, but I have already been to 
Disney World, and I had no such luck in finding a special someone there.

I checked Cinderella's Castle for Prince Charming, but he was not there. I 
scoured Frontier Land, but there was no cowboy who would come to my rescue. 
And when I toured the Caribbean, the Pirates only made me walk the plank!

So perhaps I should just stick to the Imagination Station, as I am sure all 
of this is simply a figment of my imagination!

Elizabeth

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From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 4:41 PM
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [nabs-l] Attending Convention

> Good afternoon again everyone,
>
>    You'll need to build it. You can get help by visiting Innoventions at
> the EPCOT Theme Park. It along with the rest of Disney World are an
> imagination station.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alexander Atlantic" <aaatlantic at aol.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>
>
> hey Elizabeth that sounds like a great idea.
> Alexander Atlantic
> aaatlantic at aol.com
>
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Elizabeth wrote:
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> Not trying to change the subject or anything, but is there any way you
>> could give us a few tips or some advice on how we could find ourselves in
>> the same situation as you? You know, going to convention, meeting a
>> special someone, falling in love, getting married, and living life 
>> happily
>> ever after? It sounds like an awesome deal to me, so where exactly do I 
>> go
>> to sign up for that convention attraction? I don't remember seeing it
>> listed anywhere in the agenda.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 3:14 PM
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>>
>>> Hello Darian and everyone,
>>>
>>>   With shear determination, not taking excuses from myself, and deciding
>>> that money wouldn't prevent me from attending that convention. Once I
>>> put
>>> myself in the right mind-set everything else fell in to place. As an
>>> added
>>> bonus I was rewarded during that convention by meeting my wife Mary whom
>>> I
>>> have been married to for going on 27 years come March of 2012.
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 1:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter,
>>> would you mind explaining just how you made it to the 1984 convention?
>>> Darian
>>> Darian
>>>
>>> On 6/19/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Chris and everyone,
>>>>
>>>>    For that matter you could find a way to get to the convention. Do 
>>>> you
>>>> just want to listen to what a candidate has to say or meet them in
>>>> person
>>>> and be able to ask them questions concerning their goals for NABS. You
>>>> have
>>>> just about two weeks to make plans to be with us in Orlando.
>>>>
>>>>    I pulled off attending the 1984 national convention on about three
>>>> weeks
>>>> notice without anything saved up. Had I not made the effort to go I
>>>> would
>>>> have regretted it as I probably wouldn't be married today. I'll take
>>>> complete immersion over Internet pitches and streaming any day.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 12:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kirt,
>>>>
>>>> At the risk of starting an ACB debate again, I will tell you one
>>>> thing that they do that (if we decide to do it) might solve the
>>>> problem of this not working since we need to listen to each
>>>> candidate's introduction speech if they haven't done such an
>>>> introduction on the list.  When it gets close to the ACB
>>>> convention/elections, ACB Radio (ACB's online radio station) does
>>>> a series of debates and question-answer sessions with the
>>>> candidates running for ACB offices (treasurer, President, vice
>>>> Presidents, etc) where members can call in and ask questions
>>>> directly of the candidates.  In the same way, we could have a
>>>> NABS conference call (or a series of them) in which we introduce
>>>> candidates running for whatever offices that are up for election
>>>> that year.  One of our members (preferably one that isn't running
>>>> so as to prevent bias) and can ask some questions in the
>>>> beginning (like an interview, you know, one of those "meet the
>>>> candidate" interviews that they have on the radio all the time
>>>> before a political election) and then open it up to the members
>>>> to ask the candidates questions.  That way, this amendment could
>>>> work because even people who aren't going to convention are
>>>> prepared to make their decision when they vote on their absentee
>>>> ballots.  In other words, let's do what the mainstream American
>>>> media and the government do, because if they can do it, we can
>>>> too! What do you think of this idea?
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>>>> To learn more about Camp Abilities and find a local camp near
>>>> you, just click on this link to their national Web site:
>>>> www.campabilities.org.
>>>>
>>>> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps visually impaired youth in
>>>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How? Click
>>>> on this link to learn more and to contribute:
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>>>>
>>>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:37:13 -0600
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>>>>
>>>> Jorge,
>>>>  You're putting this out in the open for public scrutiny so I'm
>>>> going
>>>> to be honest.  I really, really don't like the idea-it opens up
>>>> all
>>>> sorts of cans of worms that don't seem right to me.  Consider the
>>>> following.
>>>>  We probably won't know all the candidates in the election
>>>> *until*
>>>> the actual business meeting.  There could be someone who, for
>>>> whatever
>>>> reason, hasn't announced their candidacy for office on the list.
>>>> I
>>>> think it's only fair that anyone who's even considering voting in
>>>> the
>>>> election knows who all candidates are and has the opportunity to
>>>> listen to each introduction speech (even if it's only 30 seconds
>>>> long), before they cast their ballot.  That's only fair to all
>>>> the
>>>> candidates involved.  I would consider supporting an idea that
>>>> allows
>>>> those due-paying members in virtual attendance (through an
>>>> official
>>>> NABS skype call or the like) the opportunity to vote.  Beyond
>>>> that, I
>>>> don't think you have much of a case.
>>>>  Also, think about this.  Let's say you, hypothetically, were
>>>> running
>>>> for NABS president.  You get a bunch of your blind friends who
>>>> aren't
>>>> going to convention, who may or may not want anything to do with
>>>> the
>>>> Federation, and have them pay $5 so they're voting members.  I'm
>>>> not
>>>> saying you'd do such a thing, I'm just saying you're leaving that
>>>> kind
>>>> of possibility open.  No matter how secure the voting method is,
>>>> that
>>>> makes this something that could happen.  Do other organizations
>>>> open
>>>> that door?  Sure.  Should we?  I say no.
>>>>  But the spirit behind the idea isn't bad.  I think, personally,
>>>> if
>>>> we could ensure some sort of secure method for virtual attendance
>>>> at
>>>> the meeting for those due-paying members who can't make
>>>> convention,
>>>> I'd be all for allowing them to vote.  Maybe set up a shoutcast
>>>> server
>>>> streaming the meeting, and only give the password to those
>>>> due-paying
>>>> members who request it?  Make a conference call and only give the
>>>> calling info/access code for those due-paying members who ask for
>>>> it?
>>>> If we instituted a system like that, I don't see why we couldn't
>>>> allow
>>>> that sort of absentee voting, but only for those who are in
>>>> virtual
>>>> attendance at the NABS business meeting and not for anyone else.
>>>> Am I
>>>> making any sense?  Is that a possibility?
>>>>  All the best,
>>>> Kirt
>>>>
>>>> On 6/18/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Arielle:
>>>> Not exactly,
>>>> I'm going to continue to edit the amendment myself and should be
>>>> able to
>>>> submit it before July second.
>>>> I posted this version so that people could see my amendment in
>>>> light of the
>>>> entire section.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jorge,
>>>> Is this the final version you would like read at the NABS
>>>> meeting this
>>>> year? Or, would you like to wait until 2012 when you will be at
>>>> convention yourself and can present and defend it?
>>>> If you want it read in 2011 and you will not be at convention,
>>>> you
>>>> will need to find someone else who will be there to read and
>>>> defend
>>>> it.
>>>> Arielle
>>>>
>>>> On 6/17/11, Joseph C.  Lininger <jbahm at pcdesk.net> wrote:
>>>> George,
>>>> I hate to be a killjoy on you, but you're probably wasting your
>>>> time
>>>> with this.  The organization isn't going to change this
>>>> particular
>>>> policy, no matter how many people would like to see it happen.
>>>> For the
>>>> record, I'm with you on this one, but I'm also no longer a
>>>> federationest
>>>> and haven't been for some years now.  Too many differences of
>>>> opinion.
>>>> --
>>>> "All models are wrong, but some are useful." George E.  P.  Box
>>>> Joseph C.  Lininger, <jbahm at pcdesk.net
>>>>
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>>>> President, National Association of Blind Students
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>>> -- 
>>> Darian Smith
>>>
>>> “My secret? See it, and stay focused on it.”
>>>
>>> — Shaquille O'Neal
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