[nabs-l] Attending Convention
Ignasi Cambra
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Sun Jun 19 22:29:52 UTC 2011
Hey! But this post is still pretty poetic isn't it?
:)
On Jun 19, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Elizabeth wrote:
> Hmm, I am sure that is always a possibility, but I have already been to Disney World, and I had no such luck in finding a special someone there.
>
> I checked Cinderella's Castle for Prince Charming, but he was not there. I scoured Frontier Land, but there was no cowboy who would come to my rescue. And when I toured the Caribbean, the Pirates only made me walk the plank!
>
> So perhaps I should just stick to the Imagination Station, as I am sure all of this is simply a figment of my imagination!
>
> Elizabeth
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 4:41 PM
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Attending Convention
>
>> Good afternoon again everyone,
>>
>> You'll need to build it. You can get help by visiting Innoventions at
>> the EPCOT Theme Park. It along with the rest of Disney World are an
>> imagination station.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Atlantic" <aaatlantic at aol.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 3:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>>
>>
>> hey Elizabeth that sounds like a great idea.
>> Alexander Atlantic
>> aaatlantic at aol.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 19, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Elizabeth wrote:
>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> Not trying to change the subject or anything, but is there any way you
>>> could give us a few tips or some advice on how we could find ourselves in
>>> the same situation as you? You know, going to convention, meeting a
>>> special someone, falling in love, getting married, and living life happily
>>> ever after? It sounds like an awesome deal to me, so where exactly do I go
>>> to sign up for that convention attraction? I don't remember seeing it
>>> listed anywhere in the agenda.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 3:14 PM
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>>>
>>>> Hello Darian and everyone,
>>>>
>>>> With shear determination, not taking excuses from myself, and deciding
>>>> that money wouldn't prevent me from attending that convention. Once I
>>>> put
>>>> myself in the right mind-set everything else fell in to place. As an
>>>> added
>>>> bonus I was rewarded during that convention by meeting my wife Mary whom
>>>> I
>>>> have been married to for going on 27 years come March of 2012.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 1:07 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peter,
>>>> would you mind explaining just how you made it to the 1984 convention?
>>>> Darian
>>>> Darian
>>>>
>>>> On 6/19/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello Chris and everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> For that matter you could find a way to get to the convention. Do you
>>>>> just want to listen to what a candidate has to say or meet them in
>>>>> person
>>>>> and be able to ask them questions concerning their goals for NABS. You
>>>>> have
>>>>> just about two weeks to make plans to be with us in Orlando.
>>>>>
>>>>> I pulled off attending the 1984 national convention on about three
>>>>> weeks
>>>>> notice without anything saved up. Had I not made the effort to go I
>>>>> would
>>>>> have regretted it as I probably wouldn't be married today. I'll take
>>>>> complete immersion over Internet pitches and streaming any day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 12:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kirt,
>>>>>
>>>>> At the risk of starting an ACB debate again, I will tell you one
>>>>> thing that they do that (if we decide to do it) might solve the
>>>>> problem of this not working since we need to listen to each
>>>>> candidate's introduction speech if they haven't done such an
>>>>> introduction on the list. When it gets close to the ACB
>>>>> convention/elections, ACB Radio (ACB's online radio station) does
>>>>> a series of debates and question-answer sessions with the
>>>>> candidates running for ACB offices (treasurer, President, vice
>>>>> Presidents, etc) where members can call in and ask questions
>>>>> directly of the candidates. In the same way, we could have a
>>>>> NABS conference call (or a series of them) in which we introduce
>>>>> candidates running for whatever offices that are up for election
>>>>> that year. One of our members (preferably one that isn't running
>>>>> so as to prevent bias) and can ask some questions in the
>>>>> beginning (like an interview, you know, one of those "meet the
>>>>> candidate" interviews that they have on the radio all the time
>>>>> before a political election) and then open it up to the members
>>>>> to ask the candidates questions. That way, this amendment could
>>>>> work because even people who aren't going to convention are
>>>>> prepared to make their decision when they vote on their absentee
>>>>> ballots. In other words, let's do what the mainstream American
>>>>> media and the government do, because if they can do it, we can
>>>>> too! What do you think of this idea?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>>>>> To learn more about Camp Abilities and find a local camp near
>>>>> you, just click on this link to their national Web site:
>>>>> www.campabilities.org.
>>>>>
>>>>> The I C.A.N. Foundation helps visually impaired youth in
>>>>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How? Click
>>>>> on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>>>>> www.icanfoundation.info.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:37:13 -0600
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>>>>>
>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>> You're putting this out in the open for public scrutiny so I'm
>>>>> going
>>>>> to be honest. I really, really don't like the idea-it opens up
>>>>> all
>>>>> sorts of cans of worms that don't seem right to me. Consider the
>>>>> following.
>>>>> We probably won't know all the candidates in the election
>>>>> *until*
>>>>> the actual business meeting. There could be someone who, for
>>>>> whatever
>>>>> reason, hasn't announced their candidacy for office on the list.
>>>>> I
>>>>> think it's only fair that anyone who's even considering voting in
>>>>> the
>>>>> election knows who all candidates are and has the opportunity to
>>>>> listen to each introduction speech (even if it's only 30 seconds
>>>>> long), before they cast their ballot. That's only fair to all
>>>>> the
>>>>> candidates involved. I would consider supporting an idea that
>>>>> allows
>>>>> those due-paying members in virtual attendance (through an
>>>>> official
>>>>> NABS skype call or the like) the opportunity to vote. Beyond
>>>>> that, I
>>>>> don't think you have much of a case.
>>>>> Also, think about this. Let's say you, hypothetically, were
>>>>> running
>>>>> for NABS president. You get a bunch of your blind friends who
>>>>> aren't
>>>>> going to convention, who may or may not want anything to do with
>>>>> the
>>>>> Federation, and have them pay $5 so they're voting members. I'm
>>>>> not
>>>>> saying you'd do such a thing, I'm just saying you're leaving that
>>>>> kind
>>>>> of possibility open. No matter how secure the voting method is,
>>>>> that
>>>>> makes this something that could happen. Do other organizations
>>>>> open
>>>>> that door? Sure. Should we? I say no.
>>>>> But the spirit behind the idea isn't bad. I think, personally,
>>>>> if
>>>>> we could ensure some sort of secure method for virtual attendance
>>>>> at
>>>>> the meeting for those due-paying members who can't make
>>>>> convention,
>>>>> I'd be all for allowing them to vote. Maybe set up a shoutcast
>>>>> server
>>>>> streaming the meeting, and only give the password to those
>>>>> due-paying
>>>>> members who request it? Make a conference call and only give the
>>>>> calling info/access code for those due-paying members who ask for
>>>>> it?
>>>>> If we instituted a system like that, I don't see why we couldn't
>>>>> allow
>>>>> that sort of absentee voting, but only for those who are in
>>>>> virtual
>>>>> attendance at the NABS business meeting and not for anyone else.
>>>>> Am I
>>>>> making any sense? Is that a possibility?
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/18/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Arielle:
>>>>> Not exactly,
>>>>> I'm going to continue to edit the amendment myself and should be
>>>>> able to
>>>>> submit it before July second.
>>>>> I posted this version so that people could see my amendment in
>>>>> light of the
>>>>> entire section.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>> Is this the final version you would like read at the NABS
>>>>> meeting this
>>>>> year? Or, would you like to wait until 2012 when you will be at
>>>>> convention yourself and can present and defend it?
>>>>> If you want it read in 2011 and you will not be at convention,
>>>>> you
>>>>> will need to find someone else who will be there to read and
>>>>> defend
>>>>> it.
>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/17/11, Joseph C. Lininger <jbahm at pcdesk.net> wrote:
>>>>> George,
>>>>> I hate to be a killjoy on you, but you're probably wasting your
>>>>> time
>>>>> with this. The organization isn't going to change this
>>>>> particular
>>>>> policy, no matter how many people would like to see it happen.
>>>>> For the
>>>>> record, I'm with you on this one, but I'm also no longer a
>>>>> federationest
>>>>> and haven't been for some years now. Too many differences of
>>>>> opinion.
>>>>> --
>>>>> "All models are wrong, but some are useful." George E. P. Box
>>>>> Joseph C. Lininger, <jbahm at pcdesk.net
>>>>>
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>>>>> --
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>>>>> President, National Association of Blind Students
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Darian Smith
>>>>
>>>> “My secret? See it, and stay focused on it.”
>>>>
>>>> — Shaquille O'Neal
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