[nabs-l] Attending Convention

Mon Jun 20 00:29:55 UTC 2011

Well, while I appreciate your  advice on relationships, I was more  so
interested in your explaination on how you got to convention in 1984
 sure somethings fell into place, but I doubt love  got you there.

On 6/19/11, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> 'Afternoon, Elizabeth,
>
> Dig the poetry, wow!
> Car At 03:29 PM 6/19/2011, you wrote:
>>Hey! But this post is still pretty poetic isn't it?
>>:)
>>On Jun 19, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Elizabeth wrote:
>>
>> > Hmm, I am sure that is always a possibility,
>> but I have already been to Disney World, and I
>> had no such luck in finding a special someone there.
>> >
>> > I checked Cinderella's Castle for Prince
>> Charming, but he was not there. I scoured
>> Frontier Land, but there was no cowboy who
>> would come to my rescue. And when I toured the
>> Caribbean, the Pirates only made me walk the plank!
>> >
>> > So perhaps I should just stick to the
>> Imagination Station, as I am sure all of this
>> is simply a figment of my imagination!
>> >
>> > Elizabeth
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------------
>> > From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 4:41 PM
>> > To: "National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> > Subject: [nabs-l] Attending Convention
>> >
>> >> Good afternoon again everyone,
>> >>
>> >>   You'll need to build it. You can get help by visiting Innoventions at
>> >> the EPCOT Theme Park. It along with the rest of Disney World are an
>> >> imagination station.
>> >>
>> >> Peter Donahue
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From:
>> "Alexander Atlantic" <aaatlantic at aol.com>
>> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 3:04 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> hey Elizabeth that sounds like a great idea.
>> >> Alexander Atlantic
>> >> aaatlantic at aol.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 19, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Elizabeth wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Peter,
>> >>>
>> >>> Not trying to change the subject or anything, but is there any way you
>> >>> could give us a few tips or some advice on how we could find ourselves
>> >>> in
>> >>> the same situation as you? You know, going to convention, meeting a
>> >>> special someone, falling in love, getting
>> married, and living life happily
>> >>> ever after? It sounds like an awesome deal
>> to me, so where exactly do I go
>> >>> to sign up for that convention attraction? I don't remember seeing it
>> >>> listed anywhere in the agenda.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Elizabeth
>> >>>
>> >>> --------------------------------------------------
>> >>> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 3:14 PM
>> >>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hello Darian and everyone,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  With shear determination, not taking excuses from myself, and
>> >>>> deciding
>> >>>> that money wouldn't prevent me from attending that convention. Once I
>> >>>> put
>> >>>> myself in the right mind-set everything else fell in to place. As an
>> >>>> added
>> >>>> bonus I was rewarded during that convention by meeting my wife Mary
>> >>>> whom
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> have been married to for going on 27 years come March of 2012.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Peter Donahue
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darian Smith"
>> >>>> <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>> >>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> >>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 1:07 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Peter,
>> >>>> would you mind explaining just how you made it to the 1984
>> >>>> convention?
>> >>>> Darian
>> >>>> Darian
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 6/19/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> Hello Chris and everyone,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>   For that matter you could find a way to get to the convention. Do
>> >>>>> you
>> >>>>> just want to listen to what a candidate has to say or meet them in
>> >>>>> person
>> >>>>> and be able to ask them questions concerning their goals for NABS.
>> >>>>> You
>> >>>>> have
>> >>>>> just about two weeks to make plans to be with us in Orlando.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>   I pulled off attending the 1984 national convention on about three
>> >>>>> weeks
>> >>>>> notice without anything saved up. Had I not made the effort to go I
>> >>>>> would
>> >>>>> have regretted it as I probably wouldn't be married today. I'll take
>> >>>>> complete immersion over Internet pitches and streaming any day.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Peter Donahue
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>> >>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> >>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 12:34 PM
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Kirt,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> At the risk of starting an ACB debate again, I will tell you one
>> >>>>> thing that they do that (if we decide to do it) might solve the
>> >>>>> problem of this not working since we need to listen to each
>> >>>>> candidate's introduction speech if they haven't done such an
>> >>>>> introduction on the list.  When it gets close to the ACB
>> >>>>> convention/elections, ACB Radio (ACB's online radio station) does
>> >>>>> a series of debates and question-answer sessions with the
>> >>>>> candidates running for ACB offices (treasurer, President, vice
>> >>>>> Presidents, etc) where members can call in and ask questions
>> >>>>> directly of the candidates.  In the same way, we could have a
>> >>>>> NABS conference call (or a series of them) in which we introduce
>> >>>>> candidates running for whatever offices that are up for election
>> >>>>> that year.  One of our members (preferably one that isn't running
>> >>>>> so as to prevent bias) and can ask some questions in the
>> >>>>> beginning (like an interview, you know, one of those "meet the
>> >>>>> candidate" interviews that they have on the radio all the time
>> >>>>> before a political election) and then open it up to the members
>> >>>>> to ask the candidates questions.  That way, this amendment could
>> >>>>> work because even people who aren't going to convention are
>> >>>>> prepared to make their decision when they vote on their absentee
>> >>>>> ballots.  In other words, let's do what the mainstream American
>> >>>>> media and the government do, because if they can do it, we can
>> >>>>> too! What do you think of this idea?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Chris
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>> >>>>> To learn more about Camp Abilities and find a local camp near
>> >>>>> you, just click on this link to their national Web site:
>> >>>>> www.campabilities.org.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps visually impaired youth in
>> >>>>> Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How? Click
>> >>>>> on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>> >>>>> www.icanfoundation.info.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sent from my BrailleNote
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
>> >>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> >>>>> Date sent: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:37:13 -0600
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] draft 2 - complete section with amendment
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Jorge,
>> >>>>> You're putting this out in the open for public scrutiny so I'm
>> >>>>> going
>> >>>>> to be honest.  I really, really don't like the idea-it opens up
>> >>>>> all
>> >>>>> sorts of cans of worms that don't seem right to me.  Consider the
>> >>>>> following.
>> >>>>> We probably won't know all the candidates in the election
>> >>>>> *until*
>> >>>>> the actual business meeting.  There could be someone who, for
>> >>>>> whatever
>> >>>>> reason, hasn't announced their candidacy for office on the list.
>> >>>>> I
>> >>>>> think it's only fair that anyone who's even considering voting in
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> election knows who all candidates are and has the opportunity to
>> >>>>> listen to each introduction speech (even if it's only 30 seconds
>> >>>>> long), before they cast their ballot.  That's only fair to all
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> candidates involved.  I would consider supporting an idea that
>> >>>>> allows
>> >>>>> those due-paying members in virtual attendance (through an
>> >>>>> official
>> >>>>> NABS skype call or the like) the opportunity to vote.  Beyond
>> >>>>> that, I
>> >>>>> don't think you have much of a case.
>> >>>>> Also, think about this.  Let's say you, hypothetically, were
>> >>>>> running
>> >>>>> for NABS president.  You get a bunch of your blind friends who
>> >>>>> aren't
>> >>>>> going to convention, who may or may not want anything to do with
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> Federation, and have them pay $5 so they're voting members.  I'm
>> >>>>> not
>> >>>>> saying you'd do such a thing, I'm just saying you're leaving that
>> >>>>> kind
>> >>>>> of possibility open.  No matter how secure the voting method is,
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>> makes this something that could happen.  Do other organizations
>> >>>>> open
>> >>>>> that door?  Sure.  Should we?  I say no.
>> >>>>> But the spirit behind the idea isn't bad.  I think, personally,
>> >>>>> if
>> >>>>> we could ensure some sort of secure method for virtual attendance
>> >>>>> at
>> >>>>> the meeting for those due-paying members who can't make
>> >>>>> convention,
>> >>>>> I'd be all for allowing them to vote.  Maybe set up a shoutcast
>> >>>>> server
>> >>>>> streaming the meeting, and only give the password to those
>> >>>>> due-paying
>> >>>>> members who request it?  Make a conference call and only give the
>> >>>>> calling info/access code for those due-paying members who ask for
>> >>>>> it?
>> >>>>> If we instituted a system like that, I don't see why we couldn't
>> >>>>> allow
>> >>>>> that sort of absentee voting, but only for those who are in
>> >>>>> virtual
>> >>>>> attendance at the NABS business meeting and not for anyone else.
>> >>>>> Am I
>> >>>>> making any sense?  Is that a possibility?
>> >>>>> All the best,
>> >>>>> Kirt
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 6/18/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> Arielle:
>> >>>>> Not exactly,
>> >>>>> I'm going to continue to edit the amendment myself and should be
>> >>>>> able to
>> >>>>> submit it before July second.
>> >>>>> I posted this version so that people could see my amendment in
>> >>>>> light of the
>> >>>>> entire section.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Jorge,
>> >>>>> Is this the final version you would like read at the NABS
>> >>>>> meeting this
>> >>>>> year? Or, would you like to wait until 2012 when you will be at
>> >>>>> convention yourself and can present and defend it?
>> >>>>> If you want it read in 2011 and you will not be at convention,
>> >>>>> you
>> >>>>> will need to find someone else who will be there to read and
>> >>>>> defend
>> >>>>> it.
>> >>>>> Arielle
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 6/17/11, Joseph C.  Lininger <jbahm at pcdesk.net> wrote:
>> >>>>> George,
>> >>>>> I hate to be a killjoy on you, but you're probably wasting your
>> >>>>> time
>> >>>>> with this.  The organization isn't going to change this
>> >>>>> particular
>> >>>>> policy, no matter how many people would like to see it happen.
>> >>>>> For the
>> >>>>> record, I'm with you on this one, but I'm also no longer a
>> >>>>> federationest
>> >>>>> and haven't been for some years now.  Too many differences of
>> >>>>> opinion.
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> "All models are wrong, but some are useful." George E.  P.  Box
>> >>>>> Joseph C.  Lininger, <jbahm at pcdesk.net
>> >>>>>
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
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>> >>>>> President, National Association of Blind Students
>> >>>>> Phone:  602-502-2255
>> >>>>> Email:
>> >>>>> nabs.president at gmail.com
>> >>>>> Website:
>> >>>>> www.nabslink.org
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>> >>>> “My secret? See it, and stay focused on it.”
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