[nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

[T. Joseph Carter]

The cryptographic solution I suggest?  Not practical.  Anything short 
of it?  Not logical.

As to the implication of passing it and what impact it would have on 
other divisions, the NFB as a whole, the purpose, scope, and 
justification for national convention…  I can only say that I think 
the impact would be huge and largely undesirable.  I wouldn’t vote 
for it, if I were voting.

As I said earlier, I would not be voting even if I attended the NABS 
meeting because I am no longer a student and I believe the future of 
the student division must be shaped by those who are.  But I can’t 
really see other students passing it either.

Joseph


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 08:03:17PM -0700, Darian Smith wrote:
>In the  end,  do you think Nabs  as a division  will pass this?
>
>
>On 6/19/11, T. Joseph Carter <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Courtney, there was at least as much fraud in 2008 as the previous
>> two presidential elections.  The reason why 2008 was not the circus
>> the previous elections were is that Obama clearly carried by such a
>> wide margin that the obvious fraud in the election could not have
>> changed the outcome for either party.
>>
>> The only electronic voting system I’ve seen not prone to tampering
>> and voter integrity issues is the Automark, because it marks a paper
>> ballot which is then counted.
>>
>> If each student in the organization had a digital credential with
>> cryptographic security issued by NABS at the time you pay dues, that
>> credential could sign your ballot electronically.  Until you lose it
>> in a hard drive crash, of course.  Then how do you replace it in such
>> a way that NABS knows the replacement credential is going to you and
>> only you?
>>
>> I’ve nothing useful to add regarding the non-technical aspects, but I
>> certainly do not dispute a thing you said about them.
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 01:20:06PM -0500, Courtney Stover wrote:
>>>Hi all:
>>>
>>>Many of the cogent points have already been discussed here.  However,
>>>there are a couple which I'd like to cover in greater detail.
>>>
>>>As someone who attended National convention several years ago because
>>>of the extremely hard and diligent work of my chapter President to
>>>procure financial aid, I can vouch that what a great deal of the
>>>membership are saying about getting some of your expenses covered in
>>>this manner is definitely doable, especially if you begin planning in
>>>advance.
>>>
>>>As evidence of why this measure would be an absolute nightmare I
>>>submit exhibit A: the 2000 Presidential election, and Exhibit B: the
>>>2004 Presidential election.
>>>
>>>I am not attempting to begin a political discussion here, but due to
>>>some voter fraud and logistics issues, those elections were a
>>>nightmare no matter which side you were on.
>>>
>>>I don't like how this amendment would discourage people from gaining
>>>the full experience of the NFB through the communal aspects showcased
>>>to such great effect through convention.  If all we have to do to
>>>influence policy decisions is press a button, why would we, especially
>>>those of us who struggle financially, attempt to find the funds for
>>>convention.
>>>
>>>In closing, there's a factor I think very few of those in favor of
>>>this amendment are considering: stage presence.  We want people who
>>>can not only articulately and passionately represent the NFB in
>>>writing, but in person, too.  Extremely articulate letter writers may
>>>become rather tongue-tied and shy in person...any of you who know me
>>>well can vouch for the truth of that one.  So, to my mind, to make the
>>>best possible decision, we need written platforms such as those posted
>>>to the list over the last few days, and face to face interaction,
>>>which we will gain at convention.
>>>
>>>Courtney
>>
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>Darian Smith
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