[nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] Threw Our Eyes interview, Ride into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June 22, 8:00 pm EDT

[Kirt Manwaring]

Carly,
  We all make mistakes.  No worries.
  Now, just for the heck of it, I'd like to address a point I think
you made earlier.  (I'm only guessing, because my gmail wouldn't read
the whole message to me)  But I think you said something like this.
"The federation is kind of hypocritical because they rap ad noseum
about independence but are stuck relying on sighted people to help
them-depending on another person isn't independence at all!"  If I'm
off the mark, I'm sorry, but I can see you saying something like that
so it's just my guess of what you said from the little bit gmail was
able to read me.
  Here's the thing about that.  Independence does not mean do
everything by yourself all the time.  It simply means you can do what
you want to, when you want to do it, in a way that's efficient and
works for you.  It means, basically, that you aren't subject to
another person's vision of your life, you do things the way you wish
to do them.  It also means you do this without really making anyone
else go much out of their way to help you.
  So think of it this way.  Every store already has a sighted worker,
most of those will be honest, almost all will be honest with other
people watching.  If you ask that person "hey, what's this bill you're
handing me?" that's in no way compromising your independence.  Using
technology is better because it takes away the outside chance that
someone's trying to pull off some funny business but, without the
technology, you're still probably safe most of the time.  As we've
seen already from other posts, nothing is fool proof.
  But back to independence and philosophy and stuff.  Have you ever
used a reader?  If you have, you're using another person, who's
chosing to do something they don't have to do; either they get money
or they don't, but it works because you get the job done and you
aren't forcing them to do it for you.  They chose to provide their
time to read you something-you aren't making them do anything.  Have
you ever used a sighted guide?  I do, all the time.  (I'm starting to
less and less just to keep my cane skills up but sometimes it's just
the most efficient way to get stuff done.)  You can get somewhere
independently and use a sighted guide, as long as you're getting there
on your terms and you could do it without a guide there.
  See what I'm saying?  Independent and interdependent aren't mutually
exclusive.
  Best,
Kirt

On 6/23/11, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> 'Morning, Kurt,
>
>          'Guess I really blew it for myuy self with all those I'd say
> off the wall comments, about the Ibill.
>
> Now a truth immerges which I failed to state clearly, before.
>
> 'was confused with the NoteTeller 2 which, experience has shown me is
> unreliable, at best.
> Carly even the person
>> > showing them couild not make them work.
>> > It's interesting however that folks on this List have found good luck
>> > with them.
>> > Carwrote:
>> >>That is your experience -- mine is that the iBill works quite well
>> >>-- and I think others have found this to be true too.
>> >>
>> >>Dave
>> >>
>> >>At 05:08 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Hi, Hamberto and all interested folks,
>> >>>
>> >>>Truth be known, my common law husband and I had the I bill,
>> >>>courtesy of rehab but, after repeated attempts to make the thing
>> >>>identify paper currency, we ascertained it a genuine piece of shit
>> >>>and is not worth anything, so I submit that the manufacturers must
>> >>>be well aware of their having themselves a niche market, in blind
>> >>>people and the deep pocketed agencies who tend to support them, so
>> >>>are totally exploiting it in the manner of any Capitalist aware of
>> >>>the exisstance of a small and needy marketplace.
>> >>>So, in essence, don't waste your's or rehab's  time with the I
>> >>>bill! 02:11 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote:
>> >>>>Hello, but what happens if I have a bill in my hand and I want to know
>> >>>> what
>> >>>>it is, but there is not a single sighted soul to tell me what it is? I
>> >>>> know
>> >>>>is a free alternative but, is it truly worth it? And, what if that
>> >>>> sighted
>> >>>>person lies about the amount of money that is on the bill?
>> >>>>I would probably support ideas like the KNFB reader and the iBill
>> >>>> identifier
>> >>>>if they were even cheaper. If they were so, I would buy one or the
>> >>>> other,
>> >>>>but so far, I can not afford either one.
>> >>
>> >>
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