[nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] NFB Resolution on accessible currency
Hartle, Jesse
JHartle at nfb.org
Fri Jun 24 15:09:51 UTC 2011
Hi All,
I thought I would provide you with the statement of the National Federation of the Blind on accessible currency from 1994; about 11 years before the law suit. See below.
RESOLUTION 94-07
WHEREAS, the United States Department of the Treasury is examining alternatives to the present currency for the purposes of making counterfeiting more difficult and for making currency more compatible with modern technology; and
WHEREAS, revisions to the present currency may include variations in color, raised markings, bar coding, or other electronically readable formats; and
WHEREAS, it is a widespread misconception that blind people cannot handle their own money because they cannot see it; and
WHEREAS, it is beyond dispute that blind people can, in fact, handle their own money; however, bills which can be identified by other than conventional print could be more convenient for everyone, may be a necessity to safeguard against counterfeiting, and may be desirable to take the best advantage of evolving technology: Now, therefore,
BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention assembled this seventh day of July, 1994, in the City of Detroit, Michigan, that this organization express the interest of blind people in the discussion of a modernized form of currency so that any changes which may eventually be made will include methods of identifying money by other than strictly visual means; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this Federation, notwithstanding its expressed interest in the ultimate decisions on currency changes, do all in its power correctly to inform the public that blind people can and do successfully handle money in its present form.
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From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kirt Manwaring
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:50 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] Threw Our Eyes interview, Ride into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June 22, 8:00 pm EDT
Carly,
I'm not exactly sure what a striation is. The NFBwas opposed to such a measure, and I think they were right to be against it for reasons I've already mentioned. But, after the federal court judge decided to side with the ACB, the NFB decided, rightly, that it may as well be a part of the process since it was going to happen anyway. I don't really see the harm in this, do you?
Best,
Kirt
On 6/23/11, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Good morning, Kirt,
>
> 'Seems to me though, that one ought to be able to determine
> shades of their own reality, which is how I understand the Federation
> wants its members, to conduct themselves, in the world. Yet, beyond
> the elaborate striations the existing system will need to experience,
> if such a change were to be made, how come the Federation didn't
> speak up when it was asked, by the Mint last time that entity produced
> curency?
> :
>>Carly,
>> We all make mistakes. No worries.
>> Now, just for the heck of it, I'd like to address a point I think
>>you made earlier. (I'm only guessing, because my gmail wouldn't read
>>the whole message to me) But I think you said something like this.
>>"The federation is kind of hypocritical because they rap ad noseum
>>about independence but are stuck relying on sighted people to help
>>them-depending on another person isn't independence at all!" If I'm
>>off the mark, I'm sorry, but I can see you saying something like that
>>so it's just my guess of what you said from the little bit gmail was
>>able to read me.
>> Here's the thing about that. Independence does not mean do
>>everything by yourself all the time. It simply means you can do what
>>you want to, when you want to do it, in a way that's efficient and
>>works for you. It means, basically, that you aren't subject to
>>another person's vision of your life, you do things the way you wish
>>to do them. It also means you do this without really making anyone
>>else go much out of their way to help you.
>> So think of it this way. Every store already has a sighted worker,
>>most of those will be honest, almost all will be honest with other
>>people watching. If you ask that person "hey, what's this bill you're
>>handing me?" that's in no way compromising your independence. Using
>>technology is better because it takes away the outside chance that
>>someone's trying to pull off some funny business but, without the
>>technology, you're still probably safe most of the time. As we've
>>seen already from other posts, nothing is fool proof.
>> But back to independence and philosophy and stuff. Have you ever
>>used a reader? If you have, you're using another person, who's
>>chosing to do something they don't have to do; either they get money
>>or they don't, but it works because you get the job done and you
>>aren't forcing them to do it for you. They chose to provide their
>>time to read you something-you aren't making them do anything. Have
>>you ever used a sighted guide? I do, all the time. (I'm starting to
>>less and less just to keep my cane skills up but sometimes it's just
>>the most efficient way to get stuff done.) You can get somewhere
>>independently and use a sighted guide, as long as you're getting there
>>on your terms and you could do it without a guide there.
>> See what I'm saying? Independent and interdependent aren't
>>mutually exclusive.
>> Best,
>>Kirt
>>
>>On 6/23/11, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 'Morning, Kurt,
>> >
>> > 'Guess I really blew it for myuy self with all those I'd
>> > say off the wall comments, about the Ibill.
>> >
>> > Now a truth immerges which I failed to state clearly, before.
>> >
>> > 'was confused with the NoteTeller 2 which, experience has shown me
>> > is unreliable, at best.
>> > Carly even the person
>> >> > showing them couild not make them work.
>> >> > It's interesting however that folks on this List have found good
>> >> > luck with them.
>> >> > Carwrote:
>> >> >>That is your experience -- mine is that the iBill works quite
>> >> >>well
>> >> >>-- and I think others have found this to be true too.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Dave
>> >> >>
>> >> >>At 05:08 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Hi, Hamberto and all interested folks,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Truth be known, my common law husband and I had the I bill,
>> >> >>>courtesy of rehab but, after repeated attempts to make the
>> >> >>>thing identify paper currency, we ascertained it a genuine
>> >> >>>piece of shit and is not worth anything, so I submit that the
>> >> >>>manufacturers must be well aware of their having themselves a
>> >> >>>niche market, in blind people and the deep pocketed agencies
>> >> >>>who tend to support them, so are totally exploiting it in the
>> >> >>>manner of any Capitalist aware of the exisstance of a small and needy marketplace.
>> >> >>>So, in essence, don't waste your's or rehab's time with the I
>> >> >>>bill! 02:11 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote:
>> >> >>>>Hello, but what happens if I have a bill in my hand and I want
>> >> >>>>to know what it is, but there is not a single sighted soul
>> >> >>>>to tell me what it is? I know is a free alternative but, is
>> >> >>>>it truly worth it? And, what if that sighted person lies
>> >> >>>>about the amount of money that is on the bill?
>> >> >>>>I would probably support ideas like the KNFB reader and the
>> >> >>>>iBill identifier if they were even cheaper. If they were so,
>> >> >>>>I would buy one or the other, but so far, I can not afford
>> >> >>>>either one.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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