[nabs-l] [Nonetheless] Threw Our Eyes interview, Ride into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June 22, 8:00 pm EDT

[Carly Mihalakis]

Hi, Jose[ph,

And, just how would you earn a living, while going through school?
What job would you get?
'Fact seems to me that, we are not the same! Jobs 
we can do are dependant on our having some 
schooling under our belts, with which we are able 
to make a meaningful contribution to some project 
or service.   Why?  Because we haven’t got the 
skills to keep up.  Why?  Because the same system 
that is giving us our little handout (for which 
I’m told we should be grateful) has actively 
interfered in our efforts to be and do better 
than that. As for suing, how, whom, and why?  My 
benefits were never actually stopped, only 
threatened.  Just enough to keep me jumping for 
my government slavemasters.  I was entitled to, 
had, and won each of my appeals, so the system 
worked as designed. I’m just no longer willing 
to be a slave. Joseph On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 
01:18:23PM -0600, Kirt Manwaring 
wrote: >Joseph, >  You make great points, and I 
really do feel for you.  That's >aweful...like, 
maybe get a social security lawyer kind of 
aweful. >  All I'm saying is, the way the system 
is intended to work (and the >way it works for a 
lot of us), SSI is necessary income.  I'm using 
it >so I don't starve through school; the minute 
I get out and find a >full-time job, I'm saying 
goodbye to my SSI for good.  That's how 
it >should be-use it to get yourself able to work 
then cut the cord.  I >know lots of people abuse 
it, I know it's poorly managed, and I 
know >you're getting screwed by the system.  But 
the way I see it, it's >designed to be a boost up 
to equality, not a handout.  Of course, >everyone 
doesn't use it that way. >  In any case, best of 
luck.  I hope things work out for you.  For >what 
it's worth, I'm sorry you're going through all 
this crap. >  Best wishes, >Kirt > >On 6/25/11, 
T. Joseph Carter <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com> 
wrote: >> Kirt, >> >> Social Security and SSI are 
still a handout, and they come with >> strings 
attached that make getting off of them pretty 
difficult. >> Especially if you live in 
subsidized housing, collect food stamps, >> 
receive utility subsidies, etc.  If you do and 
you go and find >> yourself a job that doesn’t 
pay enough, you will have a sudden net >> 
reduction in your income that already doesn’t 
pay the bills. >> >> I’ve decided I’m getting 
off this roller coaster even if it makes me >> 
homeless in the process, because I’m sick and 
tired of living in fear >> that they might take 
away my benefits!  I’ve gotten three letters 
to >> that effect in the past two years, in the 
midst of cancer treatment >> for two of them, all 
with the customary 30 day appeal I’d better 
take >> advantage of if I want to be able to 
survive another month! >> >> I’m tired of 
getting paid to NOT work.  I’m tired of living 
in places >> where the government intrudes upon 
my home three times a year to make >> sure my 
landlord isn’t complete pond scum (but allowing 
them to be >> one level removed from pond 
scum!)  I’m tired of being told that if I >> 
start working, my rent will suddenly be 120% of 
what anybody in their >> right might would ever 
pay for this dump.  And I’m tired of being >> 
told that they’re sorry, but I just don’t 
qualify for the work >> incentives, or the better 
medical coverage, or the exemptions that >> might 
possibly allow me to save a few hundred dollars 
with which to >> actually get out of here! >> >> 
Your not-a-handout Social Security and SSI have 
made slaves of far >> too many of us.  Perfectly 
able to work, but afraid to try for fear >> that 
we’ll lose what little we’ve got.  We are 
trapped in a prison of >> learned helplessness, 
and the only way out is to see these 
things—all >> of them—for what they are: 
Government handoutss designed to keep us >> 
docile, afraid, and living in poverty. >> >> 
I’m done playing that game. >> >> 
Joseph >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 
09:13:21AM -0600, Kirt Manwaring 
wrote: >>>Carley, >>>  First off, I've done a bit 
of really light research and I was way >>>liberal 
about what I thought the cost of this would 
be.  It's probably >>>going to be in the 
neighborhood of $100 million, so I was way 
off. >>>That'll teach me not to make outlandish 
statements with no proof. >>>  But still, the 
point I made in my last message stands.  Of 
course I >>>don't want the government to write 
out a check for all of us-I was >>>trying to 
point out that trying to make all the cash out 
there more >>>"blind-friendly" is not 
necessary.  Just like we don't need 
government >>>handouts (I'm not counting SSI as a 
government handout because that's >>>money lots 
of us genuinely need), we don't need the 
government >>>spending $100 million redesigning 
currency we can already use with >>>pretty much 
no problem.  Honestly, if you think you can't 
afford an >>>iBill, there's probably something 
you're buying with your $680 a month >>>that you 
really don't need. >>>  Just a 
thought, >>>Kirt >> >> 
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