[nabs-l] [Nonetheless] Threw Our Eyes interview, Ride into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June 22, 8:00 pm EDT

Mon Jun 27 07:39:34 UTC 2011

Who says we can’t flip burgers or make like anyone else that age?

The reality is that we are seldom hired for these jobs, but who says 
we cannot do them?  I see no reason why we could not learn to do 
those things.

Joseph

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 06:16:18PM -0700, Carly Mihalakis wrote:
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>Hi, Jose[ph,
>
>And, just how would you earn a living, while going through school?
>What job would you get?
>'Fact seems to me that, we are not the same! Jobs we can do are 
>dependant on our having some schooling under our belts, with which we 
>are able to make a meaningful contribution to some project or 
>service.   Why?  Because we havenâ€™t got the skills to keep up.  
>Why?  Because the same system that is giving us our little handout 
>(for which Iâ€™m told we should be grateful) has actively interfered 
>in our efforts to be and do better than that. As for suing, how, 
>whom, and why?  My benefits were never actually stopped, only 
>threatened.  Just enough to keep me jumping for my government 
>slavemasters.  I was entitled to, had, and won each of my appeals, so 
>the system worked as designed. Iâ€™m just no longer willing to be a 
>slave. Joseph On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 01:18:23PM -0600, Kirt 
>Manwaring wrote: >Joseph, >  You make great points, and I really do 
>feel for you.  That's >aweful...like, maybe get a social security 
>lawyer kind of aweful. >  All I'm saying is, the way the system is 
>intended to work (and the >way it works for a lot of us), SSI is 
>necessary income.  I'm using it >so I don't starve through school; 
>the minute I get out and find a >full-time job, I'm saying goodbye to 
>my SSI for good.  That's how it >should be-use it to get yourself 
>able to work then cut the cord.  I >know lots of people abuse it, I 
>know it's poorly managed, and I know >you're getting screwed by the 
>system.  But the way I see it, it's >designed to be a boost up to 
>equality, not a handout.  Of course, >everyone doesn't use it that 
>way. >  In any case, best of luck.  I hope things work out for you.  
>For >what it's worth, I'm sorry you're going through all this crap. >  
>Best wishes, >Kirt > >On 6/25/11, T. Joseph Carter 
><carter.tjoseph at gmail.com> wrote: >> Kirt, >> >> Social Security and 
>SSI are still a handout, and they come with >> strings attached that 
>make getting off of them pretty difficult. >> Especially if you live 
>in subsidized housing, collect food stamps, >> receive utility 
>subsidies, etc.  If you do and you go and find >> yourself a job that 
>doesnâ€™t pay enough, you will have a sudden net >> reduction in your 
>income that already doesnâ€™t pay the bills. >> >> Iâ€™ve decided 
>Iâ€™m getting off this roller coaster even if it makes me >> homeless 
>in the process, because Iâ€™m sick and tired of living in fear >> 
>that they might take away my benefits!  Iâ€™ve gotten three letters 
>to >> that effect in the past two years, in the midst of cancer 
>treatment >> for two of them, all with the customary 30 day appeal 
>Iâ€™d better take >> advantage of if I want to be able to survive 
>another month! >> >> Iâ€™m tired of getting paid to NOT work.  Iâ€™m 
>tired of living in places >> where the government intrudes upon my 
>home three times a year to make >> sure my landlord isnâ€™t complete 
>pond scum (but allowing them to be >> one level removed from pond 
>scum!)  Iâ€™m tired of being told that if I >> start working, my rent 
>will suddenly be 120% of what anybody in their >> right might would 
>ever pay for this dump.  And Iâ€™m tired of being >> told that 
>theyâ€™re sorry, but I just donâ€™t qualify for the work >> 
>incentives, or the better medical coverage, or the exemptions that >> 
>might possibly allow me to save a few hundred dollars with which to 
>>> actually get out of here! >> >> Your not-a-handout Social Security 
>and SSI have made slaves of far >> too many of us.  Perfectly able to 
>work, but afraid to try for fear >> that weâ€™ll lose what little 
>weâ€™ve got.  We are trapped in a prison of >> learned helplessness, 
>and the only way out is to see these thingsâ€”all >> of them—for what 
>they are: Government handoutss designed to keep us >> docile, afraid, 
>and living in poverty. >> >> Iâ€™m done playing that game. >> >> 
>Joseph >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 09:13:21AM -0600, Kirt 
>Manwaring wrote: >>>Carley, >>>  First off, I've done a bit of really 
>light research and I was way >>>liberal about what I thought the cost 
>of this would be.  It's probably >>>going to be in the neighborhood 
>of $100 million, so I was way off. >>>That'll teach me not to make 
>outlandish statements with no proof. >>>  But still, the point I made 
>in my last message stands.  Of course I >>>don't want the government 
>to write out a check for all of us-I was >>>trying to point out that 
>trying to make all the cash out there more >>>"blind-friendly" is not 
>necessary.  Just like we don't need government >>>handouts (I'm not 
>counting SSI as a government handout because that's >>>money lots of 
>us genuinely need), we don't need the government >>>spending $100 
>million redesigning currency we can already use with >>>pretty much 
>no problem.  Honestly, if you think you can't afford an >>>iBill, 
>there's probably something you're buying with your $680 a month 
>>>>that you really don't need. >>>  Just a thought, >>>Kirt >> >> 
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