[nabs-l] skimming

humberto humbertoa5369 at netzero.net
Wed Mar 16 03:33:13 UTC 2011 

One other thought: Yes, you have the freedom to skim through 
textbooks, but like someone pointed out, don't skim too much.  On 
the other hand, don't read too much either, don't overflow your 
brain.  Do you know what I mean? *** Everything in moderation! 
***


> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:26:37 -0600
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] skimming

>Even in my Freshmen classes, you have to skim sometimes.  There's 
just
>no way to cover thousands and thousands of pages of research 
articles,
>textbooks, papers, journals, etc...you have to pick the important
>points.  Just a thought.

>On 3/15/11, dstrick1 at roadrunner.com <dstrick1 at roadrunner.com> 
wrote:
>> Skimming is a dangerous idea.  I have had instructors where the 
skimmers were
>> the ones who failed because we were tested on anything and 
everything.  It
>> does not tell you everything you need to know.
>> ---- "Antonio M.  Guimaraes Jr." <freethaught at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Disagree,

>>> Students learn better, think more critically, and extrac the 
excential
>>> information from interaction with text, and not even the simple 
act of
>>> reading and taking notes.  Notes serve me only to rewrite what I 
need to
>>> learn.  Interaction allowes greater participation, better 
attention, and
>>> superior comprehention of a material.

>>> Text books are not written as novels, and jumping throu 
paragraphs allowes
>>> one to decide what to read, and what to skip.  I want to learn 
what I want
>>> to learn and not have to sit for weeks trying to get every 
detail down for
>>> a test that will only require a specific set of knowledge and 
information.

>>> Further more, a paper requires research, and students, even need 
to plow
>>> though hundrest of pages from douzens of articles just to decide 
what to
>>> write, and how to write it.

>>> Now imagine having to read every single word of every single 
article you
>>> think may have something in it for you.

>>> I would rather read critically than to read continuously.

>>> Antonio Guimaraes


>>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Jedi wrote:

>>>> It is true that sighted students often skip a lot of material.  
But the
>>>> advantage in not being able to do that exactly as the sighted do 
is that
>>>> you learn more.  I usually have top grades in my classes, and I 
really do
>>>> think it's because I have to read through more material than my 
peers
>>>> do.  After all, it is difficult to know exactly what material is 
not
>>>> really required unless the professor spells it out for you.  So 
the
>>>> consequences of skipping through stuff might be that you don't 
get what
>>>> you need from the material.

>>>> Respectfully,
>>>> Jedi

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> "I know that the successful student does not read material from 
cover
>>>>> to
>>>>> cover"


>>>>> They don't?

>>>>> Maybe that's why I don't have a degree yet

>>>>> Maybe I'll try any suggestions that might be discussed here too.

>>>>> Jen
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>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Antonio M.  Guimaraes Jr." <freethaught at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:58 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] skimming


>>>>>> Hello all,

>>>>>> I am stuck catching up on missed work with hundreds of pages to 
be
>>>>>> read
>>>>>> quickly.  Like, yesterday.

>>>>>> I read mostly from RFBD recorded materials, and most if not all 
books
>>>>>> fail
>>>>>> to take full advantage of DAISY features to make books really 
most
>>>>>> useful
>>>>>> to all.

>>>>>> I have no idea how to skim and browse through a poorly marked 
RFBD
>>>>>> book.
>>>>>> There is no physical structure like paragraph indentations, 
chapter
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> section headings, boxes, charts, italics, and other text booky
>>>>>> features to
>>>>>> ease the study process.

>>>>>> Kurzweil may make this easier to accomplish with their browse
>>>>>> features,
>>>>>> but I haven't tried getting materials from bookshare since RFBD 
tends
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have my texts in their collection.


>>>>>> The study process is so much easier if I have a human reader, 
but I
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> carry one in my pocket :D

>>>>>> I know that the successful student does not read material from 
cover
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> cover, and there is yet no full navigation solution  for a 
complete
>>>>>> ability to navigate all of a book by exploring its parts, 
skimming,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> extracting the author's thoughts.

>>>>>> RFBD could make more scholars if their books would more closely 
comply
>>>>>> with DAISY standards.

>>>>>> i would be really interested to hear how you get this done.

>>>>>> Looking for a better way to read,

>>>>>> Antonio Guimaraes


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