[nabs-l] confused - regarding - NFB Google Apps complaint

[humberto]

Dave, that seems to explain things a little better.  This does, 
in fact make sense.  Just suing companies for nothing or for 
things that are accessible right out of the box is not good 
either.

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
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>Date sent: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:21:44 -0500
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] confused - regarding - NFB Google Apps 
complaint

>People are doing a lot of uninformed speculation here.  Freedom
>Scientific has no legal obligation to make inaccessible 
applications
>accessible.  It may make good business sense, but the don't have
>to.  And ...  depending on the technologies used, they may not be
>able to make GoogleApps accessible with what is there now.

>And, the NFB doesn't sue Google because there are no direct
>grounds.  Google, like FS, has no legal obligation to make its
>applications accessible.  It might make sense, but there is no 
law
>that says they have too.

>On the other hand colleges and universities are obligated to 
provide
>accessible services and programs, and if they don't, they can be
>sued.  Thus Google can be pressured to do the right thing, by its
>customers, universities, who can be sued.
>Dave


>At 04:13 PM 3/16/2011, you wrote:
>>Precisely my thoughts.

>>Where's the NFB suing Freedom Scientific?

>>Or Google?

>>Gosh knows Google could do way more then any school to fix that 
problem.

>>Just my thoughts.

>>Jorge



>>On Mar 16, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:

>>> Hello,

>>> Google Aps are accessible with screen readers that have 
innovated and
>>> are able to use google apps such as NVDA for example.  JFW 
works, but
>>> very limitedly.  What happened to the screen reader companies 
doing
>>> their jobs and making things accessible instead of the NFB 
getting
>>> sue-happy *gain* and complaining because screen reader companies 
are
>>> falling behind? I don't think that Google has _ever refused to 
work on
>>> accessibility for anyone.  Just saying ...

>>> Thanks.

>>> On 16/03/2011, Jorge Paez <jorgeapaez at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello fellow NABS members.

>>>> I'm sure most of you have heard about the complaint National
>> filed regarding
>>>> universities using Google Apps.

>>>>> From what I understand, GMail is completely accessible but the
>> rest isn't.
>>>> (I've never used anything more then Gmail in the apps as of 
yet),

>>>> but so far, I haven't seen many people use this.

>>>> Are we complaining because the University is mandating that 
everything be
>>>> done threw Google Apps (part of which is unaccessible) or are we
>> complaining
>>>> for simply using inaccessible web applications that could 
potentially pose
>>>> problems?



>>>> Thanks,

>>>> Jorge

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