[nabs-l] The Future of Nemeth?
Josh Gregory
joshkart12 at gmail.com
Sun May 22 04:38:55 UTC 2011
Um...=20=20can=20you=20explain=20that=20one?=20Personally,=20I=20find=20it=
=20useable.=20=20
Even=20though=20I=20hate=20having=20to=20type=20it=20into=20web=20sites.
Josh
sent=20from=20my=20Apex
Email:=20joshkart12 at gmail.com
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Mike=20Freeman=20<k7uij at panix.com
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Sat,=2021=20May=202011=2021:31:34=20-0700
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20The=20Future=20of=20Nemeth?
Computer=20Braille=20is=20an=20abomination=20--=20but=20I=20use=20it.
Mike=20Freeman
sent=20from=20my=20iPhone
On=20May=2021,=202011,=20at=2013:58,=20"Nicole=20B.=20=20Torcolini=20at=20H=
ome"=20
<ntorcolini at wavecable.com>=20wrote:
=20*NO.*
=20Problems=20with=20people=20trying=20to=20use=20a=20mixture=20of=20Comput=
er=20=20
Braille=20and=20Nemeth=20is=20the=20very=20reason=20that=20I=20started=20th=
is=20thread.
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----=20From:=20"Jorge=20Paez"=20
<computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=
=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Saturday,=20May=2021,=202011=201:29=20PM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20The=20Future=20of=20Nemeth?
=20Well,
=20could=20we=20perhaps=20fuze=20the=20standards=20for=20Nemith=20and=20com=
puter=20
braille?
=20Make=20it=20just=20one=20code?
=20On=20May=2021,=202011,=20at=202:06=20PM,=20Mike=20Freeman=20wrote:
=20Given=20the=20paucity=20of=20dot=20combinations=20available=20in=20Brail=
le,=20such=20
a=20goal=20is=20a=20pipe-dream=20unless=20so=20many=20indicators=20and=20mo=
difiers=20
are=20used=20that=20the=20code=20becomes=20unwieldy.
=20Mike=20Freeman
=20sent=20from=20my=20iPhone
=20On=20May=2020,=202011,=20at=2022:25,=20Greg=20Aikens=20<gpaikens at gmail.c=
om>=20
wrote:
=20Hi=20Chris,
=20I=20think=20the=20point=20you=20make=20is=20the=20idea=20behind=20a=20un=
ified=20code.=20=20
In=20print,=20different=20symbols=20are=20used=20for=20math=20and=20for=20l=
etters.=20=20
In=20braille,=20we=20use=20the=20same=20symbols=20to=20represent=20both=20m=
ath=20and=20
letters=20depending=20on=20context.=20=20The=20unified=20system=20would=20
theoretically=20eliminate=20much=20of=20the=20need=20for=20context=20to=20d=
etermine=20
what=20a=20text=20says,=20making=20it=20more=20like=20print.
=20The=20appeal=20of=20a=20unified=20code=20is=20that=20there=20is=20only=20=
one=20code=20to=20
learn,=20instead=20of=20learning=20one=20code=20for=20reading,=20one=20for=
=20math,=20
and=20one=20for=20computer=20symbols.=20=20Computer=20braille,=20for=20exam=
ple,=20is=20
rather=20clunky=20and=20unwieldy.
=20I=20don't=20really=20have=20a=20strong=20opinion=20about=20whether=20a=20=
unified=20
code=20would=20be=20better=20than=20the=20current=20systems=20used.=20=20Bu=
t=20having=20
one=20code=20does=20seem=20like=20it=20might=20simplify=20things.
=20Just=20my=20thoughts,
=20Greg
=20On=20May=2020,=202011,=20at=203:19=20PM,=20=C3=82ris=20Nusbaum=20wrote:
=20Hi=20Greg,
=20My=20only=20counterpoint=20to=20that=20suggestion=20(which=20is=20a=20go=
od=20one,=20
don't=20get=20me=20wrong)=20is=20that=20there=20are=20different=20symbols=20=
for=20
literary=20and=20math=20print=20as=20far=20as=20I=20know.=20=20In=20print,=
=20there=20are=20
different=20symbols=20for=20different=20operations=20in=20math=20than=20the=
y=20are=20
in=20Nemeth.=20=20If=20anyone=20is=20a=20Braille/print=20expert=20here=20or=
=20is=20
affiliated=20with=20BANA,=20could=20you=20confirm=20or=20clarify=20this=20f=
or=20me?
=20Chris
=20"A=20loss=20of=20sight,=20never=20a=20loss=20of=20vision!"=20(Camp=20Abi=
lities=20
motto)
=20---=20Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20Greg=20Aikens=20<gpaikens at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20=
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date=20sent:=20Fri,=2020=20May=202011=2007:43:53=20-0500
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20The=20Future=20of=20Nemeth?
=20Actually,=20Dr.=20=20Nemeth=20has=20continued=20to=20update=20and=20chan=
ge=20the=20
code,=20trying=20to=20integrate=20it=20as=20seamlessly=20as=20possible=20wi=
th=20
literary=20braille.=20=20I=20would=20be=20surprised=20if=20he=20would=20be=
=20offended=20
by=20a=20discussion=20of=20the=20future=20of=20his=20code.=20=20Admittedly,=
=20I=20have=20
not=20followed=20the=20threads=20talking=20about=20the=20future=20of=20brai=
lle,=20so=20
I=20probably=20don't=20understand=20the=20context=20for=20Joshua's=20reacti=
on=20
here.=20=20I=20do=20think=20its=20good=20to=20think=20critically=20about=20=
how=20tools=20
can=20be=20improved=20and=20better=20used=20in=20general=20though.
=20As=20far=20as=20the=20original=20question,=20I=20do=20hope=20that=20some=
=20kind=20of=20
unified=20braille=20system=20will=20be=20adopted=20in=20the=20U.S.=20=20whi=
ch=20
integrates=20math=20and=20literary=20braille.=20=20This=20seems=20like=20a=
=20
challenging=20problem=20to=20solve,=20and=20widespread=20adoption=20of=20a=
=20new=20
code=20will=20take=20quite=20a=20while,=20but=20fortunately=20better=20mind=
s=20than=20
mine,=20such=20as=20Dr.=20=20Nemeth,=20have=20started=20working=20on=20this=
=20problem.
=20-Greg
=20On=20May=2019,=202011,=20at=2011:30=20PM,=20Joshua=20Lester=20wrote:
=20i=20had=20the=20honor=20of=20meeting=20Dr.=20=20Nemeth,=20last=20year,=20=
in=20Dallas.
=20I'm=20sure=20he'd=20hate=20to=20hear=20of=20us=20talking=20about=20his=20=
code,=20being
=20changed,=20or=20it=20becoming=20obsilete.
=20Nemeth=20Code=20will=20stay=20around!
=20I=20learned=20math,=20with=20it,=20and=20it's=20the=20way=20to=20go!
=20Blessings,=20Joshua
=20On=205/19/11,=20Kirt=20Manwaring=20<kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>=20wrote:
=20I'm=20with=20Mike=20here.=20=20Nemeth=20is=20absolutely=20brilliant-prob=
ably=20the=20
main
=20reason=20(aside=20from=20awesome=20tutors)=20I=20was=20able=20to=20pass=
=20college=20
Algebra.
=20On=205/19/11,=20Mike=20Freeman=20<k7uij at panix.com>=20wrote:
=20It'll=20stay=20around=20if=20I=20have=20anything=20to=20do=20with=20it.
=20Mike
=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org=20
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On
=20Behalf
=20Of=20Nicole=20B.=20=20Torcolini=20at=20Home
=20Sent:=20Thursday,=20May=2019,=202011=207:53=20PM
=20To:=20NABS-L
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20The=20Future=20of=20Nemeth?
=20Many=20people=20have=20been=20talking=20about=20the=20future=20of=20Brai=
lle=20in=20
general.=20=20What
=20about=20the=20future=20of=20Nemeth?
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