[nabs-l] accessible pedestrian signals APS

[bookwormahb at earthlink.net]

George,
I don't know.  I heard the treasury  is studying what redesign should be 
done.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jorge Paez
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 7:15 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible pedestrian signals APS

I thought it wasn't supposed to be enforced till like 2012?


On May 2, 2011, at 7:14 PM, <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:

> George,
> Actually the ACB seems as mad as ever; yes they won in the court; but the 
> government has not produced accessible currency yet.
> Some do not feel the decision will be enforced.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jorge Paez
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:57 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible pedestrian signals APS
>
> I believe the national is officially against expanding the use of APS.
>
> As far as accessible currency, didn't the ACB already close that case in 
> court?
> ACB V. US trasury 2009 or something like that?
>
>
> On May 2, 2011, at 6:36 PM, <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am on the ACB list and as usual with controversial topics, they are 
>> taking the Accessible pedestrian signal and accessible currency
>> topics and really trashing the NFB and they don’t know the real positions 
>> and facts.
>> They think NFB opposes both.
>> I may not tell them as they will not listen, but what are the positions? 
>> Nfb is not opposed to APS fully.
>>
>> What is the national position? Any late resolutions?  Also, what do you 
>> think and when have you found them helpful or not helpful?
>> Personally, I’d like the APS at intersections where you have to press the 
>> walk button as a pedestrian.  We cannot see the walk signal to know when 
>> our time starts; you have to press the button in order to tell the 
>> computer that you are a pedestrian and need a walk phase to cross the 
>> street.  I think these are called actuated signals.  These streets favor 
>> drivers, not pedestrians; the busier streets get more traffic time.  That 
>> change of the signal is activated by a computer.
>>
>> At fixed time streets, those streets with a set time to cross, without a 
>> button are easier IMO and you got sufficient traffic cues to hear to 
>> cross.
>> I also think some streets are more complex now a days with more turn 
>> lanes and islands, and a accessible signal would be great.  Some signals 
>> even talk to you and count down the time left in the walk interval.
>>
>> So I guess I see APS as a benefit  when you have insufficient traffic 
>> cues to cross the street.  I’ve tried to learn how to cross T streets, 
>> and those are confusing too; maybe the APS would help there too.  No 
>> parallel traffic on T-shaped streets.
>>
>> Look forward to your thoughts; I know NFB modified their position on APS, 
>> so I’m not sure what it is now.  I certainly don’t want them everywhere, 
>> but in several cases with complex traffic patterns I can see their use.
>>
>> Ashley
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